Which plover? (1 Viewer)

dixonlau

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Sarawak, Malaysian Borneo. Oct 2020.

I'm not sure which plover this is. The pics are 2 separate birds. (1) with darker color chest, (2) another with lighter color chest. The white on its neck goes all the way around its neck.

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It is sad and unfortunate seeing such beautiful plovers scavenging food at illegal rubbish dump site. Only saw these 2. No other plover sighted.
 

Nutcracker

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Long-billed Plover Charadrius placidus would be my guess; an adult (black collar) and a 1st-winter (brown collar).
 

johnallcock

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Little Ringed Plovers for me.

I think Long-billed would be an extreme vagrant to Borneo (I'm not sure it has ever been recorded there). These also seem to be too small and slim for Long-billed, although size is hard to judge from the photos.
 

andyb39

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Long-billed has occurred but as John says, is a vagrant. Little Ringed Plover, on the other hand, is common and I agree that this is what they are.
 

Deb Burhinus

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Little Ringed Plovers for me.

For me too - 1cy and adult - I think perhaps the low eye level view of the camera (cf to how we typically view waders) may be giving an impression of them being larger and stockier than they actually are.

Great shots despite the environment!
 

Nutcracker

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For me too - 1cy and adult - I think perhaps the low eye level view of the camera (cf to how we typically view waders) may be giving an impression of them being larger and stockier than they actually are.

Great shots despite the environment!
They looked Killdeer size to me! That, plus the long tail (well past wingtips), and lack of any obvious yellow eye ring, is what made me think Long-billed.
 

Larry Sweetland

Formerly 'Larry Wheatland'
I agree that the tail looks alarmingly long, which is supposed to be a pro Long-billed feature. I'm struggling with this. The two species are alarmingly similar, and I'm relieved there were both species present for comparison on the one occasion I was lucky enough to see Long-billed!
 

Deb Burhinus

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They looked Killdeer size to me! That, plus the long tail (well past wingtips), and lack of any obvious yellow eye ring, is what made me think Long-billed.

The adult looks to be moulting its primaries - the yellow eye ring is less evident in immature birds and non/post-breeding but it is there in both individuals
http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?Bird_Image_ID=160257&Bird_ID=1026&Bird_Family_ID=&Location=

http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?Bird_ID=1026&Bird_Image_ID=149852&Bird_Family_ID=
 

dixonlau

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Thank you so much guys for the reply.

I do agreed this looks more like Little Ringed Plover based on all the inputs.


Little Ringed Plovers for me.

I think Long-billed would be an extreme vagrant to Borneo (I'm not sure it has ever been recorded there). These also seem to be too small and slim for Long-billed, although size is hard to judge from the photos.

John
Long-billed Plover did been recorded in Borneo based on

https://avibase.bsc-eoc.org/checklist.jsp?region=BOR

http://www.borneobirdimages.com/bird/long-billed_plover/2556




Long-billed Plover Charadrius placidus would be my guess; an adult (black collar) and a 1st-winter (brown collar).

Nutcracker, the appearance does look like Long-billed when you mentioned it. Just its beak I'm not so sure is that long. Also due to little yellow ring on its eye, more likely this is not Long-billed.


For me too - 1cy and adult - I think perhaps the low eye level view of the camera (cf to how we typically view waders) may be giving an impression of them being larger and stockier than they actually are.

Great shots despite the environment!

Thanks Deb Burhinus, I managed to walk quite close to them for the shot and I was standing. Not getting lower eye level due to extreme hot heat waves. They seems not so skittish to human also.
 

Deb Burhinus

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Also due to little yellow ring on its eye, more likely this is not Long-billed

That doesnโ€™t exclude Long-billed - http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?Bird_ID=1018&Bird_Image_ID=86338&Bird_Family_ID=

but see my earlier point re eyering in non-breeding plumage for Little Ringed https://ebird.org/species/lirplo

I think the extensive black collar favours Little - Long-billed has a narrower breastband - and paler brown eyestripe

http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?Bird_ID=1018&Bird_Image_ID=142981&Bird_Family_ID=


http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?Bird_ID=1018&Bird_Image_ID=106438&Bird_Family_ID=

I agree they are very similar though - Iโ€™m not sure of the sub-species of Little Ringed Plover in Borneo and whether there are relevant morphology traits? Would it be jerdoni?
 
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