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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gijs van Ginkel" data-source="post: 3655797" data-attributes="member: 82596">Synaps, post 22,For the price range you indicate for the Eschenbach and the problems you are faced with you probably could have  a much better deal with the Bynolyt Voyager 8x42. I just finished investigating it and it was surprisingly good and it did beat 8x42 Hawke and Bushnell binoculars which were even more expensive. Since you are from the Netherlands you also would have the advantage that you can rely on the service of Technolyt, the dealer of Bynolyt in The Netherlands and you can ceck them before buying them by going to a shop which carries them (House of Outdoor in Maarsen is one of them but there are more).Gijs van Ginkel</blockquote>