BirdForum is the net's largest birding community dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE!

Register for an account to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rasmus Boegh" data-source="post: 146796" data-attributes="member: 1146">The best way to id those two species from each other (at least in most of South America incl. Guyana, exceptions occur in other subspecies) is to look at the crown and the orbital skin (bare skin around the eye)White-tipped: Colour of crown rather similar to chest-colour (note that there is a white area over the bill in both species). Orbital skin light blue. Prefer drier areas than Grey-crowned. Also occurs in rather open area (which Grey-crowned very rarely does). The white tail tips are slightly larger in this species than the following, but this is hard to actually see in the field.Grey-crowned: Crown grey. Orbital skin red. In general this species is also a warmer colour overall, but for using that, you need to have experiance with both species.Minor correction: Of course I ment Grey-fronted NOT Grey-crowned.I have seen both species often, and have *NEVER* noted any spots on the wings. Perhaps they ment the white tail-edges?Voices of the two are quite different.</blockquote>