Whitethroat / Reed Warbler Peterborough UK (1 Viewer)

[ozil321]

Hi everyone.
Could somebody help with these pics please?
The first one was 3 weeks ago and I thought it was a Whitethroat.
The other pics were taken at the same spot yesterday and I thought (hopefully) that they were Reed Warblers, but they seem very similar to the first pic.
To complicate things for me, a slightly smaller darker bird joined the last pic.

 

[PYRTLE]

Common Whitethroats

 

[ozil321]

Common Whitethroats

Thanks Pat.

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

I agree with Pat, Common Whitethroats, by for example orange-rufous wing panel.
But there is a Lesser Whitethroat hiding among them: first picure shows a bird with dark toes, uniform cold-brown wings and a sooty grey head and an (at least nearly) all dark bill. So first is a Lesser Whitethroat
More small, incomplete eye-ring is also better for Lesser

 

[ozil321]

I agree with Pat, Common Whitethroats, by for example orange-rufous wing panel.
But there is a Lesser Whitethroat hiding among them: first picure shows a bird with dark toes, uniform cold-brown wings and a sooty grey head and an (at least nearly) all dark bill. So first is a Lesser Whitethroat
More small, incomplete eye-ring is also better for Lesser

Vielen Dank mein Freund:t:

 

[ozil321]

This bird was in the same bush. Is the quality good enough for an ID? Still hoping for a Reed Warbler |=)|

 

[PYRTLE]

Unfortunately not a Reed Warbler, a young Chiffchaff.

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Agree with Pat again. Please note really blackish (not dark) legs, short PP, that are good characters against Willow. Reed can be excluded by notched (not rounded tail), clear green tones (not olive-BROWN in the most similar Reeds) and to slender bill are all wrong for a Reed Warbler.

 

[ozil321]

Thanks Pat and Alex, I really appreciate your help.