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Why couldn't a catadioptric or newtonian optical system be used in binoculars?
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<blockquote data-quote="OPTIC_NUT" data-source="post: 3162393" data-attributes="member: 121951"><p>Here is a major problem with using very high powered binoculars</p><p>in a terrestrial application: atmospheric distortions of the</p><p>rays and the image are much stronger looking horizontally than vertically?</p><p>Add the common haze issue of the lower atmosphere and...what's the point.</p><p></p><p>Other issues with a reflector include contrast, of course. The effect of the </p><p>diffraction around the supports and secondary reflector. You can actually</p><p>get past this a bit with image processing, but it costs in resolution in the end.</p><p>Haze, most of the time, actually erases the difference between refractor and</p><p>folded reflector. Horizontally-used, that is. Not a problem if you look</p><p>between mountaintops, but that's a pretty rarified bird watching world, outside</p><p>of wildlife specials in Alaska or Iceland or following goats on the Matterhorn.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, the great long-ground-distance photos I see from reflector fans aren't any different</p><p>from the ones from refractor fans. Over a mile, they are both smoky, so the point is moot.</p><p></p><p>But...a small Cat, short distance? There is a grey level to it. I adapted a chunky</p><p>500mm telephoto to an eyepiece. It's got great power, esp. with the little barlow swapped in.</p><p>But taking pictures, I always have to down-sample and re-negotiate saturation and contrast.</p><p>Obstruction noise happens but, hey....for the price, no CA to see. It's all about trade-offs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OPTIC_NUT, post: 3162393, member: 121951"] Here is a major problem with using very high powered binoculars in a terrestrial application: atmospheric distortions of the rays and the image are much stronger looking horizontally than vertically? Add the common haze issue of the lower atmosphere and...what's the point. Other issues with a reflector include contrast, of course. The effect of the diffraction around the supports and secondary reflector. You can actually get past this a bit with image processing, but it costs in resolution in the end. Haze, most of the time, actually erases the difference between refractor and folded reflector. Horizontally-used, that is. Not a problem if you look between mountaintops, but that's a pretty rarified bird watching world, outside of wildlife specials in Alaska or Iceland or following goats on the Matterhorn. Anyway, the great long-ground-distance photos I see from reflector fans aren't any different from the ones from refractor fans. Over a mile, they are both smoky, so the point is moot. But...a small Cat, short distance? There is a grey level to it. I adapted a chunky 500mm telephoto to an eyepiece. It's got great power, esp. with the little barlow swapped in. But taking pictures, I always have to down-sample and re-negotiate saturation and contrast. Obstruction noise happens but, hey....for the price, no CA to see. It's all about trade-offs. [/QUOTE]
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