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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pratincol" data-source="post: 3302535" data-attributes="member: 65801">Steady on Ryan.Sit down and have a calming cup of tea me old mate!Some man made changes are pleasing to the eye:wind turbines are definitely not.There are some lovely valleys around here with stone walls,hedges,woodlands,enclosed fields,stone barns and other alterations made by human intervention.They look beautiful.Even the stone walls harbour many creatures.The hedgerows support birds and insects.I counted 12 Sedge Warbler in some nearby hedges this Spring.A local stone barn is home to a Little Owl and another one is home to a Barn Owl.I could show you one of the most beautiful valleys in the Lakes.Every part has been altered by humans from the stone walls,hedges,recently planted trees,a drained lake now an SSSI for wildlife,the house at the end of the valley which supports House Martins every year, and so on.It is not only lovely but it is the home to many of the bird species struggling to survive elsewhere.And not a turbine or pylon in sight!What not to like Ryan?I am never sure why internet discussions often end up with quotes like'drivel' and Daily Mail' being thrown at people as a way of insulting them.Shame on you Ryan!I have asked some questions about the lifespans of turbines,their reliability and the costs of operating windfarms against the amount of power produced.Others have talked about the visual aspects and the effects on birds.If you have got anything sensible to add then please feel free to do so.</blockquote>

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