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Wing for ID, Flamborough, England (1 Viewer)

Hello Brett,
I agree that pictures of the upperside would be helpfull.
But: first gut feeling is female Anas Duck, where dirted, wet feathers complicate matters. And why not a Eurasian Teal with this wing leng?
 
Hello Brett,
I agree that pictures of the upperside would be helpfull.
But: first gut feeling is female Anas Duck, where dirted, wet feathers complicate matters. And why not a Eurasian Teal with this wing leng?
The wing is much too large for Teal, or even Mallard, and the pattern is wrong anyway. The wing length would fit Bittern (296-357mm) and this was my first thought, but the pattern is not right for that species anyway, which has solid brown primary tips. Wing too big for Grey Partridge or Pheasant. I haven't done too much research yet. I thought I would do it the lazy way and post it on here!

Brett
 
It’s rather manky and battered (and faded)! I wonder if it is a juvenile/imm Herring Gull? I agree it is too large for a teal.
 
Meaning... wing-bend to tip of longest primary, as in museum/ringer measurement? - not really sure how you could measure that!
Or from one end of this scraggy bit of bird to the other?! Or...?
Yes, I know what wing length is, and I measured it as well as I could, taking into account the state of it. I didn't think it would be so much of a problem to ID. I will collect it this afternnon if it's still there.
 
Collected the wing this afternoon, and as I had begun to suspect, I seem to have completely misinterpreted things. What I took to be the outer wing, appears to be the inner wing (secondaries). Attched to the ulna/radius there are 10 or 11 main feathers plus 2 or 3 coverts. This means it can't be a gull, which have 20-22 secondaries. The three large feathers on the left in the attached photo are presumably primaries, but not really sure of anything. Still no further on.

Brett
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