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Message: <blockquote data-quote="colleenc" data-source="post: 1517722" data-attributes="member: 76425">Mike, the rubbish drawings are in the trash...these are the best ones, the others were indistinguishable from random marks of a 3 year old.Ed compared to me just about everyone here is an expert, at least as far as bird knowledge goes...maybe I should start a thread on wings, if there isn't one, looks like I'm going to be doing the research anyway.Tim HA, you're  one to say sketchbooks are not about "making beautiful drawings" when yours are amazing examples of just that! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />Really I wasn't perplexed over that so much as I can't find lines to explain the forms as I've been able to do with the other birds....Maybe it's because that neck is just so strange, and can take so many forms when folded up, and with the bins I can't really see how it happens....Since they are getting better slowly I'll just keep drawingI'd love to see some egret sketchbook drawings from others here, I think it will help me to do my own...Every time I start a new bird, it's like starting all over again.</blockquote>