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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chosun Juan" data-source="post: 3277608" data-attributes="member: 92780">Light Illuminates Dark  <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />)Wow!  As has been said before this is a grim thread indeed so far  .....        :-CIs the world run on a Ponzi scheme? ..... sadly yes,Is there massive waste and pollution? ..... sadly yes,Do we see exponentially increasing populations exceeding the capacity of the land? Do we see increasing land degradation and desertification? ..... sadly yes?Do we see unsustainable nutrient mining? drying out? soil loss? swamp and wetland destruction and watercourse erosion of valuable alluvial floodplain land? ...... sadly yes, Do we see rampant consumption of arable land by urbanisation? ...... sadly yes?Do we see habitat destruction? extinctions? declining animal numbers? (if not actual decreasing physical size even = shrinking nature -> no more Haast's Eagle <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown    :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> ? ..... sadly yesDo we see Religions promoting breeding? ..... sadly yes.  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_population_growth" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_population_growth</a>ecetera, ecetera, ecetera, ecetera,So is it all doom and gloom? ...... happily no!  |:d|It seems to me that while some wonderful work is done on measurement, analysis, root cause analysis, advocacy, and research extention, in the ecolological /conservation arena, that in metaphysical terms, there is a certain darkness borne of blinkered focus on the problems ......Yes we live on a seemingly finite planet, but in the quantum world where the light of the Universe (insert God of your choice <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> is made mannifest into the material realm, creativity is indeed infinite ............. o<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />It is this creativity, which, with a whole lot of foresight, will see damage reversed (save for perhaps extinctions), fragmentation of habitat reversed, primary old growth forests protected (and re-instated .... well you've got to start somewhere <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />, agricultural, and grazing lands sustainably utilised, and humanity redistributing itself for a more equitable footprint through self energy generating "mile high" skyscrapers, located so that Riparian networks remain intact.Does it really matter if we take minerals out of the ground?, as long as they are extracted without permanently damaging the environment, ideally even perhaps enhancing it, used as sustainably as possible, and recycled to the fullest extent ......  :t:Imagine buildings that power themselves - clad in solar cells, with intellegent shading, harnessing wind, and water, making use of thermal chimneys, wind catchers, and cooling green walls, ground source heat pumps, heat recovery ventilation systems, thermal mass, even geothermal and biogas power - the potential is there to make them net energy exporters, thus going some way to powering a much reduced in footprint, and vastly more efficient transport system ......Imagine pockets of humanity in sky high crystal cloud scraping palaces, interspersed among a connected wilderness, instead of the current opposite trend .......Imagine a system of product recycling and repurposing, where waste becomes input .......But most importantly, Imagine no power struggles, no wars, no resources wasted on new and advanced ways to kill one another, Imagine no mass displaced populations wreaking havoc on the environment, Imagine no natural resources being exploited and destroyed in one country for the benefit of another .......Imagine, just Imagine .......Good!  Now git ta work on implementing solutions!!I'm excited !!!!!  <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />Chosun  :gh:<a href="http://www.nsfarming.com/" target="_blank">http://www.nsfarming.com/</a><a href="http://www.nsfarming.com/andrews.htm" target="_blank">http://www.nsfarming.com/andrews.htm</a><a href="http://www.naturalsequencefarming.com/" target="_blank">http://www.naturalsequencefarming.com/</a><a href="http://www.watershedartisans.com/" target="_blank">http://www.watershedartisans.com/</a><a href="http://www.watershedartisans.com/Erosion_Control_Field_Guide.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.watershedartisans.com/Erosion_Control_Field_Guide.pdf</a><a href="https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=haast%27s%20eagle" target="_blank">https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=haast's eagle</a><a href="https://www.wbdg.org/resources/netzeroenergybuildings.php?r=sustainable" target="_blank">https://www.wbdg.org/resources/netzeroenergybuildings.php?r=sustainable</a><a href="http://www.nrel.gov/buildings/pdfs/43188.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.nrel.gov/buildings/pdfs/43188.pdf</a></blockquote>

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