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Message: <blockquote data-quote="henry link" data-source="post: 1378276" data-attributes="member: 6806">Dennis,The myth I referred to is the myth that roof prisms can never equal Porros. I know that binocular buying and evaluating is recreation and no one is going to be so careful that it ceases to be fun. For a few of us obsessive geeks part of the fun is being careful, so I'll risk being a killjoy again by suggesting that you jumped to the conclusion that all roofs have a "haze" because your tests were too casual. You assumed that the specimens you tested were equally defect free, which is never safe, and your sharpness evaluation was set up in a way that inadvertently favored the SE for reasons that have nothing to do with the prisms or even the quality of the optics. In a more careful test without that bias a good specimen of the FL and SE are about equally sharp. Unfortunately the internet is chock full of careless evaluations leading to false general statements and bogus theories about optics. I'm not sure how you went off the rails in evaluating "brightness". Certainly the SE is brighter than the Trinovid in all but very low light light because the Trinovid's light transmission is around 83-85% and the SE is around 95%, but there is in fact no significant difference in light transmission between the SE and the FL. There is likely more sample variation in light transmission within these two models than there are differences between them. Color bias is decidedly different which might explain something about your impressions.So, have fun with your new binoculars, and beauties they are, but please in the future spare the innocents who come here looking for sage advice statements along the lines of "DON"T BUY THE ZEISS OR ANY OTHER HAZY ROOF PRISM!!! ONLY PORROS ARE WORTH HAVING !!! AND THE NIKON 8x32 SE IS THE BEST BY FAR!!!!!!!! etc, etc.I'm keeping an eye on you. ;-)Henry</blockquote>

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