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Message: <blockquote data-quote="denco@comcast.n" data-source="post: 1378339" data-attributes="member: 25300">Just relating my observations under the conditions I specified. I didn't really say "DON'T BUY THE ZEISS OR ANY OTHER HAZY ROOF PRISM!!!" I am just saying in the samples I observed I feel the Nikon 8x32 SE's were superior to the Zeiss FL's to my eyes and I preferred the view.I can't believe that there could be too much sample variation in these quality binoculars but maybe there is. I have never observed that. Samples seem pretty consistent to me withiin brands. Other people may prefer the view of the Zeiss for other reasons such as color bias or whatever. As we have all agreed the differences between these top end binoculars are all really minor.I think we must all agree that for the money the Nikon 8x32 SE represents the best value in binoculars when it comes to the sheer quality of the view. I would like to see some more scientific tests and comparisons of the Zeiss FL's and the Nikon 8x32 SE's. My observations have intrigued me. It seems to me since you apparently are well schooled in scientific methodology you should be the one to conduct some unbiased tests on the two eliminating sample errors and such. I will look forward to reading your observations. I am glad you are watching me I want your input into my threads! I value it.Thanks.Dennis</blockquote>