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Bittern/Long Eared Owl/Water Rail/Red Throated Diver/Mealy Redpoll/ Arctic Redpoll/SCaup and more before House Sparrow? That was a real shock!!

Little Egret
Little Grebe
SNOW BUNTING

Three beautiful new birds today- frst two at Saltholme, the last at Seaton after looking for Iceland Gull, but missing it. Good day none the less, blog on soon.
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This week/ next weekend hopefully looking for Gulls, Grebes, Divers and Little Owls the target species
 
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I'm counting the likes of Pheasant ect.
It depends on your country's official list.
BOU has different species catorgries and you can tick birds from 3
A: Birds seen in a wild state since 1st Jan 1950
B: Birds seen in a wild state between 1st Jan 1800 and 31st Dec 1949 but not since.
C: Species that, although introduced, now derive from the resulting self-sustaining populations. (Pheasants, Mandarin ect)

Info on the catagories is here:
http://thebritishlist.blogspot.com/2009/01/species-categories.html

The Official list is here:
http://www.bou.org.uk/thebritishlist/British-List-2010.pdf
 

Jonny721

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I think we should allow rarities, and if within the year they are not accepted then we take them off (like we did with the Hooded Merganser?)
What do you think?

The problem is that Northern Harrier isn't yet accepted as a seperate species of Hen Harrier (Circus cyaneus), it is generally considered a subspecies (Circus cyaneus hudsonius) however I think that there will soon be a move to make them seperate species as Hen Harrier (Circus cyaneus) and Northern Harrier (Circus hudsonius)
 

Ash1456

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The problem is that Northern Harrier isn't yet accepted as a seperate species of Hen Harrier (Circus cyaneus), it is generally considered a subspecies (Circus cyaneus hudsonius) however I think that there will soon be a move to make them seperate species as Hen Harrier (Circus cyaneus) and Northern Harrier (Circus hudsonius)

Yeah thats true. Im not sure what to do with Northern Harrier, wait and see what happens with it in the rest of the year.
Put (1) next to the year list amount as a pending??
 
The problem is that Northern Harrier isn't yet accepted as a seperate species of Hen Harrier (Circus cyaneus), it is generally considered a subspecies (Circus cyaneus hudsonius) however I think that there will soon be a move to make them seperate species as Hen Harrier (Circus cyaneus) and Northern Harrier (Circus hudsonius)

I was pretty sure that was the case- do you know if any other country has them split? They seem fairly distinctive to me!

Yeah thats true. Im not sure what to do with Northern Harrier, wait and see what happens with it in the rest of the year.
Put (1) next to the year list amount as a pending??

Didn't we do that last year, say until that bird was confirmed (pacific diver?)
I think that is a good idea, but if it is not split at the end of the year?

With my original post I was refering to general rarities on a species level like the Slaty backed gull that have not yet been accepted?
 

Adin 92

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I was pretty sure that was the case- do you know if any other country has them split? They seem fairly distinctive to me!



Didn't we do that last year, say until that bird was confirmed (pacific diver?)
I think that is a good idea, but if it is not split at the end of the year?

With my original post I was refering to general rarities on a species level like the Slaty backed gull that have not yet been accepted?

to remain on the same subject what is your opinion about the yellow wagtails for example is the feldegg sub sps split as a new species?? (black-headed Wagtail)
 

Jonny721

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to remain on the same subject what is your opinion about the yellow wagtails for example is the feldegg sub sps split as a new species?? (black-headed Wagtail)

In this country they are all lumped together as Motacilla flava, don't know about in different countries though
 

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