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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rathaus" data-source="post: 3283663" data-attributes="member: 132018">JohnDue to their size and reputation, Initially I jumped straight into using the big Zeiss on a tripod. What I didn't realise until I tried properly was how right you are about bracing elbows and using them freestyle. These bins pull in a whole other outer sphere of birds and objects which are normally not considered targets. The best bit is that they do all this with an almost absurdly relaxing ease and pleasure...something very rare in any bin let alone at 15x. There is something about this binocular and its view which targets the pleasure centres of the brain.In some ways these Zeiss seem even better handheld (maybe easier to get cosy with it) - sitting on a bar height chair at a high table with elbows on the table for example. Elbows on a car roof, or car window sill. The views are all stunningly lush. This bino is far more versatile than I imagined. I'd be happy to take it bush with no tripod. I highly recommend this binocular to anybody interested. Regards,Rathaus</blockquote>