zeiss handferngläser 8x60 (1 Viewer)

[max123]

Hi guys, I hope that I am allowed to ask that kind of questions here and I don't violate any forum's rules.
Can someone tell me the approximate price of this binoculars? All I know is that it was made in 1919. the Lenses are in perfect condition.

 

[KC Foggin]

Hi Max!
I can’t help you with your question but I would like to wish you a warm welcome to you from those of us who are members of BirdForum. Enjoy!!

 

[Gijs van Ginkel]

max123,
This question can better be asked at members of the Binocular History Society and its medium Binopedia.
Gijs van Ginkel

 

[max123]

max123,
This question can better be asked at members of the Binocular History Society and its medium Binopedia.
Gijs van Ginkel

I'll try that, thank you!

 

[Troubador]

I'll try that, thank you!

Max, I suggest you also make it clear whether you are asking what the original retail price of these binos was or the price you might offer them at for sale today.

 

[Gijs van Ginkel]

There is a bunch of very good historical studies about Zeiss binoculars by dr. Hans T. Seeger, all his books can hardly be lifted by an average person because of their weight....,but they are very very informative.
Gijs van Ginkel

 

[Gijs van Ginkel]

Max 123, post 1,
From the pictures it looks like a Zeiss 8x60HT, 1875 grams, porro-2 construction made between 1938 and 1941. "Binocular made for the navy".
Gijs van Ginkel

 

[normjackson]

Number indicates 1920. Looks like this :

https://www.opticalrepairs.com/images/1919-zeis-8x6.jpg

towards bottom of this page :

WW2 Binocular Repairs & Servicing - Optical Repairs

"A 1919 Carl Zeiss 8x60 wide angle binocular which was one of the first of its type. It features Porro II prism units, extendable sun shields and a graticule that can be illuminated. Weighing 3.8kg it was mounted on a tripod and has no lanyard lugs. It was mainly designed to search for aircraft at night and to direct searchlights."

 

[Binastro]

Hi Max.

£500 or more?

The price of anything depends on a willing buyer and willing seller.

To be made new, several thousand pounds selling price.

It would be a good idea to weigh the binocular to see if 2kg or 4kg.

Some versions of the Zeiss 8x60 change hands at about £2,000.
I think these are coated submarine binoculars that would cost over £10,000 to make now.

Regards,
B.

 

[normjackson]

Another here :

German p1.

which might actually be more desirable because of the updates?

BTW highly sought after 8x60 Kriegsmarine sold at my local auction house a year or so back :
Auction Listing

 

[Hermann]

Max 123, post 1,
From the pictures it looks like a Zeiss 8x60HT, 1875 grams, porro-2 construction made between 1938 and 1941. "Binocular made for the navy".
Gijs van Ginkel

No. It's definitely not an 8x60HT. It's an older model.

Hermann

 

[Hermann]

Number indicates 1920. Looks like this :

https://www.opticalrepairs.com/images/1919-zeis-8x6.jpg

towards bottom of this page :

WW2 Binocular Repairs & Servicing - Optical Repairs

"A 1919 Carl Zeiss 8x60 wide angle binocular which was one of the first of its type. It features Porro II prism units, extendable sun shields and a graticule that can be illuminated. Weighing 3.8kg it was mounted on a tripod and has no lanyard lugs. It was mainly designed to search for aircraft at night and to direct searchlights."

Seconded.

Hermann

 

[Gijs van Ginkel]

Herman, post 11,
I think you are right I got my wisdom from Hans Seegers book, but that type seems not to be mentioned in his first book from 1989.
Gijs van Ginkel

 

[max123]

Number indicates 1920. Looks like this :

https://www.opticalrepairs.com/images/1919-zeis-8x6.jpg

towards bottom of this page :

WW2 Binocular Repairs & Servicing - Optical Repairs

"A 1919 Carl Zeiss 8x60 wide angle binocular which was one of the first of its type. It features Porro II prism units, extendable sun shields and a graticule that can be illuminated. Weighing 3.8kg it was mounted on a tripod and has no lanyard lugs. It was mainly designed to search for aircraft at night and to direct searchlights."

yes this is definitely it. Thank you.

 

[Gijs van Ginkel]

Max123,
You can find pictures of this binocular in the study by dr. Hans Seeger "Zeiss Handfernglaeser 1919-1946. Modelle-Merkmale-Mythos", 2015, pages141, 143 and 364-365. There you will find full pages with pictures of this binocular: porro-2, FOV 150-154m/1000m and large eyerelief (20mm). At the time of introduction it was kind of a revolution in the development of Zeiss binoculars according to Dr. Seeger. The binoculars are described as the first "weitwinkel Modelle"" from 1917-1919. This is a sort of holy grail for collectors of historic binoculars.
Gijs van Ginkel