The MHG 8x30 and MHG 8x42 have a much bigger FOV than the SFL 8x30 and SFL 8x42. The edges are soft on both the SFL and MHG, but the fall off on the MHG is much more gradual than the SFL, so it is not nearly as noticeable as the more abrupt fall off on the SFL.I love my SFL 8x30. I loved the MHG 8x30 before and the SFL is the same thing but a bit better in basically every way. It’s not perfect but it’s clearly the best bin for the weight I have used.
" IMO the EL’s in 32mm are superior to the SFL in almost every way."I think they’re both close in transmission but thats not what separates these two. Imo the EL’s in 32mm are superior to the SFL in almost every way. The 32EL was brighter under low light conditions than the 8x30SFL I compared. I’d say the same for the Leica Ultravid but to a lesser degree.
What is this "writer's discount" on which he bought his Zeisses? One wonders why so many here on BF are offering reviews for free.What do you think about this review? It may be the most positive opinion about SFL 8x30 I have read.
Are u sure it on the prism? If this is inside, to me it’s unacceptable and I would put up with the hassle and return them and get what paid for. At these prices it’s not a lot to ask for.I just noticed one thing i hadn't seen before.
I earlier forgot to take a careful look from the other side.
In the left barrel, a small dot is visible on the prism. I think this SHOULD have been detected in the quality control.
On the other hand, I don't find this has any detecheable impact on the image. And the hassle of asking for a replacement and sending it back and then waiting for a new sucks. How do you others reason in such a case?
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Zeiss is famous for leaving dust inside the binocular. The Conquest HD's are terrible that way. It could affect the contrast. I would send them back.I just noticed one thing i hadn't seen before.
I earlier forgot to take a careful look from the other side.
In the left barrel, a small dot is visible on the prism. I think this SHOULD have been detected in the quality control.
On the other hand, I don't find this has any detecheable impact on the image. And the hassle of asking for a replacement and sending it back and then waiting for a new sucks. How do you others reason in such a case?
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Are u sure it on the prism? If this is inside, to me it’s unacceptable and I would put up with the hassle and return them and get what paid for. At these prices it’s not a lot to ask for.
Good luck.
MHG 435'/1000The MHG 8x30 and MHG 8x42 have a much bigger FOV than the SFL 8x30 and SFL 8x42. The edges are soft on both the SFL and MHG, but the fall off on the MHG is much more gradual than the SFL, so it is not nearly as noticeable as the more abrupt fall off on the SFL.
I can see a ring at the edge of the FOV of the SFL, whereas on the MHG I can't. I much prefer the way Nikon designed the optics on the MHG versus how Zeiss designed the SFL, for that reason.
Just curious how did it work better for you if you sold them because of blackouts? And did you also get blackouts with SF’s?I’m with Chuck on this one. I’ve owned both SF 8x32 and the SFL 8x40. Preferred the SFL. Doesn’t mean it’s better. Just worked better for me. I did ultimately sell the SFLs though because I got some blackouts with them. Otherwise would’ve kept them
I liked the ergonomics better. Also got more blackouts with the SFs. The SFLs were brighter in low light as would be expected. I really liked how light the SFLs were for the size of the objectives while the SFs were rather large and heavy for their objective size. Both are great glasses though and of course everyone’s preferences in glasses is different so comparing both is the best way to determine which suits you better. As alwaysJust curious how did it work better for you if you sold them because of blackouts? And did you also get blackouts with SF’s?
I'm comparing apples to apples. 8x30SFL and 8x30mhg. Comparing 30sfls to 42's makes no sense whatsover. Totally different priorities and comparison.Where did you get those goofy numbers from? According to the Zeiss website, the SFL 8x42 has a 420 foot FOV and the MHG has a 435 foot FOV which will make a noticeable difference, especially since the falloff on the SFL is abrupt with a blue line and the MHG's falloff is gradual.
There is no way the SFL is brighter than the MHG when the SFL only has 90% transmission from the Zeiss website and the MHG has 92% transmission plus a 2mm bigger aperture.
The MHG is admittedly skewed towards the red end of the color spectrum, but all Nikon's are like that. As far as build quality, the MHG's are built every bit as good as the SFl's. They make not look it because they are very light for a 42mm, but they are built deceptively well. The MHG's don't have near the armor problems the SFL's have. (Picture from Aquaplas thread)View attachment 1589019
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ZEISS SFL 8x40 | Feel the intensity. Not your equipment.
Optimized to be as lightweight and compact as possible, the SFL binoculars are a perfect addition to the SF family.www.zeiss.com
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Zeiss SFL 8x40 Rubber Coating becomes Bubbled
On my SFL 8x40, the inside of the pipes turns the rubber coating into blows. The Bino is now exactly one year old and not needed much or hard. Can another SFL user report the same thing? The blows don't bother me. I hope they don't grow on the edges where the coating pulls off at the end.www.birdforum.net
"The Nikon Monarch HG 8x42 binoculars are designed for outdoor use and feature a magnesium alloy chassis and an optical system that provides 92% light transmission. They are made in Japan and are intended to offer class-leading optical performance, ruggedness, and handling. Some features of the Nikon Monarch HG 8x42 binoculars include."
BTW, Aperture only matters as your pupil dilates (dawn and dusk). And if you think you can tell the difference between 90 and 92% transmittance… enough said ;-)Where did you get those goofy numbers from? According to the Zeiss website, the SFL 8x42 has a 420 foot FOV and the MHG has a 435 foot FOV which will make a noticeable difference, especially since the falloff on the SFL is abrupt with a blue line and the MHG's falloff is gradual.
There is no way the SFL is brighter than the MHG when the SFL only has 90% transmission from the Zeiss website and the MHG has 92% transmission plus a 2mm bigger aperture.
The MHG is admittedly skewed towards the red end of the color spectrum, but all Nikon's are like that. As far as build quality, the MHG's are built every bit as good as the SFl's. They make not look it because they are very light for a 42mm, but they are built deceptively well. The MHG's don't have near the armor problems the SFL's have. (Picture from Aquaplas thread)View attachment 1589019
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ZEISS SFL 8x40 | Feel the intensity. Not your equipment.
Optimized to be as lightweight and compact as possible, the SFL binoculars are a perfect addition to the SF family.www.zeiss.com
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Zeiss SFL 8x40 Rubber Coating becomes Bubbled
On my SFL 8x40, the inside of the pipes turns the rubber coating into blows. The Bino is now exactly one year old and not needed much or hard. Can another SFL user report the same thing? The blows don't bother me. I hope they don't grow on the edges where the coating pulls off at the end.www.birdforum.net
"The Nikon Monarch HG 8x42 binoculars are designed for outdoor use and feature a magnesium alloy chassis and an optical system that provides 92% light transmission. They are made in Japan and are intended to offer class-leading optical performance, ruggedness, and handling. Some features of the Nikon Monarch HG 8x42 binoculars include."
Of course, you yourself could just ignore him, couldn't you Denis? Or has he touched a nerve?James. You contribute very little to the forum, yet you moan and groan and criticize somebody that tries to. I am sorry you don't like my posts, but you can't please everybody all the time.
It has been said a thousand times before. If you don't like what somebody says on the forum, don't read it or put them on ignore.
Good and bad your patterns are incredibly consistent. You didn’t practice what your preaching when you didn’t like somethings I had posted. Then you left the forum and blamed a few members (me the most 🤪) for your departure. Please don’t go down the down personal attack slide that does seem to get you in a little trouble. And the binoculars forum missed you 😆✌🏼James. You contribute very little to the forum, yet you moan and groan and criticize somebody that tries to. I am sorry you don't like my posts, but you can't please everybody all the time.
It has been said a thousand times before. If you don't like what somebody says on the forum, don't read it or put them on ignore.