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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Troubador" data-source="post: 3432632" data-attributes="member: 109211">I am not saying there is no truth in what you say CJ (don't forget it was me that mentioned painting into corners) but I think you are treating the concept of customer choice as unimportant.When HT came out I bought one and railed against the notion that it was for hunters because it is a fine instrument  and has given me some great experiences in nature observation. The idea that there was another instrument coming along that would be tailored towards nature observation didn't sound credible to me at the time. Well, I got that one wrong and what we have now is HT with its special capability in low light and SF with its special handling qualities that make holding it up for extended periods easy, modestly faster focuser (that Zeiss makes too much fuss about, I agree) and super-wide field of view. Hunters don't need these SF attributes but they do like low-light performance.Actually the HT/SF combo isn't that much different to the SLC/EL choice that Swaro gives customers, except that Zeiss has given their 'SLC' high transmission glass and given their 'EL' great handling and super-wide FOV. In the end both Swaro and Zeiss have given customers a choice and that is surely a good thing.Lee</blockquote>