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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CliveP" data-source="post: 3299430" data-attributes="member: 85835">Great info guys. I realised I missed checking the eyerelief spec although I don't wear glasses but you guy's have rightfully spotted it straight off.Excellent additional info also Joachim :t: I think that is probably very much more realistic.The Viper seems to get the thumbs up all round. Seems to be the same spec basically as the Bresser Everest and with the compactness and good quality optics of the Viper I'm thinking it's the sort of bin that could appeal to me as the long eyerelief does help with longer period use hence the fov is sacrificed in exchange but with a relaxed view I find the Everest fov actually ok just as if you were concentrating on the centre area of a wide angle bin. I think the extra couple of mm objective helps a little (an important little) also over the 25mm's but I did notice that a 28mm objective does not look that much different to a 25 but a 30 or 32 appears a lot larger than the 28mm. I meant to actually line them all up and show this with a photo but need the Bresser back first.I already have my Frontier 8x25 as a folding bin (it has good eyerelief but small view and very glare prone, super sharp and bright though also) and otherwise I don't really like that type of bin very much as just to fiddly and normally not a great or relaxing view hence why I'm looking at more realistic compacts for some useful field use and my Vistron and the Bresser fit this bill. I still say some ed glass and dielectric prism and a good focuser in the Vistron 8x25 would be superb though it's even great as is for a compact but it's bound to be improvable.</blockquote>

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