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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WJC" data-source="post: 3647665" data-attributes="member: 25191">Hi, Patudo:As George Bernard Shaw said: “England and America are two countries separated by the same Language”—Patton misquote notwithstanding. Hopefully not, but I get the impression you are trying to prove a point at my expense. That’s certainly well and good, if you can pull it off. But, while I came to this forum a dozen years ago, and have been disputed a number of times (thank you, Optics_Nut), through all my many posts you will not find one in which I intentionally lied or spouted something to hear my head rattle ... although it is a rather mellifluous sound. I’m afraid I will have to let my comment stand, as I am prone to do.I was speaking of the time the Night Owl was a viable instrument IN PRODUCTION and being actively MARKETED, as verified by a national representative of ZEISS.As I see it, the “market” you speak of is the one that took place after production stopped and Zeiss was trying to offload surplus inventory that didn’t sell as they had anticipated. To me that's a matter of SALES ADVERTISING rather than MARKETING.As a Zeiss dealer at the time, I view those two “markets” differently.But, if you must have the last word, be my guest; I don’t have a pony in the show. :cat:Cheers,BillPS The Night Owl did have a cameo on the dash of Dr. Jonas Miller’s (Cary Elwes’) vehicle in the 1996 movie, Twister.</blockquote>