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<blockquote data-quote="Nixterdemus" data-source="post: 2254957" data-attributes="member: 96265"><p>Towit, <em>moreofless</em> indeed, </p><p></p><p>I am enamored w/ZR 7X36 ED2 and for how much my opinion is valued, not much by others as a rule , would highly recommend them to anyone seeking good glass/large field of view combined w/quality build and smooth mechanical operation. That's high praise from a skinflint that didn't bother to include the attractive and most affordable price into the mix from the get-go.</p><p></p><p>I have no interest whatsoever in parting w/these and I'm taken entirely unto the point of making many inquiries about the 9X36 ED2 models that are still available.</p><p></p><p>The open bridge and barrels housing 36 MM objectives are a delight to hold. Possibly a tad heavy, yet not overbearing and if given the opportunity to choose betwixt the twain I'd list towards a robust build in this price range. No doubt just as strong models could be built lighter, but also I fear it would be easier and cheaper to build lighter models that are weaker.</p><p></p><p>I've commented on the extra quarter turn beyond infinity of the focus wheel and I'd like to see the turn and a quarter that I use trimmed to one turn w/o the extra quarter on the end. It would be nice if there was an adjustable stop on infinity, so I could fine tune infinity. I haven't a clue or foggiest notion if that is even practical. Of course that would involve more manufacturing and I'd want them to charge less as long as I'm wanton. Though I've read some reviews on the ED3 w/one turn focusing, that felt the new and quicker focus was a bit fast for them, it only affirms that you can't please everyone all the time and compromises must be conceded.</p><p></p><p>I do not consider reviews as absolute truth, yet they tell a story about a product and about a person. I cast not aspersions unto character, however I cannot ignore the ratio of overall post count to reviews within this four page thread titled, ZEN ED2 9X36.</p><p></p><p>I also would care to thank you for pointing out, <em>another post like your others</em> as it gave me cause to read my past posts, from 3/11, as I haven't read them since posted.</p><p></p><p>I'm entertained and honoured to be considered <em>Brockesque</em>. Funny in that lately I've read w/great interest some of his posts and just now read six month old posts making comparisons to our writing style. Much to Monsieur Brock's chagrin I'm certain and were I him might feel the need to question the popular contention of alleged similarity.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I'm long of wind at times, but it isn't vanity about me. It's all about encouraging response be it rebuttal/agreement or even differing subject matter. So, my meager thread of 6.5X21 Papilio and ZR curiosity evolves into an affordable spotting scope that can be employed also as a backyard/deck observatory.</p><p></p><p>It's all good to the point that I'm considering posting in my original thread in essence resurrecting it from the dead, but I'm not quite sure if such bold breech of etiquette is kosher.</p><p></p><p>Perchance a sign from east of the Mississippi and Arkansas tributary convergence will shine light upon the murky water of the babbling brook in due course.</p><p>---</p><p>Thank Steve C for the succinct and detailed analysis. That makes sense and offers explanation to possibly why the nine power was excluded from the ED3 and Prime line. I can relate to the shortcomings of the smaller 36 MM objective when compared to the 40-44 MM, but some enjoy an 8X32. I thought the 9x might compliment the 7x, but w/limited reviews it left me a mite leery.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nixterdemus, post: 2254957, member: 96265"] Towit, [i]moreofless[/i] indeed, I am enamored w/ZR 7X36 ED2 and for how much my opinion is valued, not much by others as a rule , would highly recommend them to anyone seeking good glass/large field of view combined w/quality build and smooth mechanical operation. That's high praise from a skinflint that didn't bother to include the attractive and most affordable price into the mix from the get-go. I have no interest whatsoever in parting w/these and I'm taken entirely unto the point of making many inquiries about the 9X36 ED2 models that are still available. The open bridge and barrels housing 36 MM objectives are a delight to hold. Possibly a tad heavy, yet not overbearing and if given the opportunity to choose betwixt the twain I'd list towards a robust build in this price range. No doubt just as strong models could be built lighter, but also I fear it would be easier and cheaper to build lighter models that are weaker. I've commented on the extra quarter turn beyond infinity of the focus wheel and I'd like to see the turn and a quarter that I use trimmed to one turn w/o the extra quarter on the end. It would be nice if there was an adjustable stop on infinity, so I could fine tune infinity. I haven't a clue or foggiest notion if that is even practical. Of course that would involve more manufacturing and I'd want them to charge less as long as I'm wanton. Though I've read some reviews on the ED3 w/one turn focusing, that felt the new and quicker focus was a bit fast for them, it only affirms that you can't please everyone all the time and compromises must be conceded. I do not consider reviews as absolute truth, yet they tell a story about a product and about a person. I cast not aspersions unto character, however I cannot ignore the ratio of overall post count to reviews within this four page thread titled, ZEN ED2 9X36. I also would care to thank you for pointing out, [I]another post like your others[/I] as it gave me cause to read my past posts, from 3/11, as I haven't read them since posted. I'm entertained and honoured to be considered [i]Brockesque[/i]. Funny in that lately I've read w/great interest some of his posts and just now read six month old posts making comparisons to our writing style. Much to Monsieur Brock's chagrin I'm certain and were I him might feel the need to question the popular contention of alleged similarity. Yes, I'm long of wind at times, but it isn't vanity about me. It's all about encouraging response be it rebuttal/agreement or even differing subject matter. So, my meager thread of 6.5X21 Papilio and ZR curiosity evolves into an affordable spotting scope that can be employed also as a backyard/deck observatory. It's all good to the point that I'm considering posting in my original thread in essence resurrecting it from the dead, but I'm not quite sure if such bold breech of etiquette is kosher. Perchance a sign from east of the Mississippi and Arkansas tributary convergence will shine light upon the murky water of the babbling brook in due course. --- Thank Steve C for the succinct and detailed analysis. That makes sense and offers explanation to possibly why the nine power was excluded from the ED3 and Prime line. I can relate to the shortcomings of the smaller 36 MM objective when compared to the 40-44 MM, but some enjoy an 8X32. I thought the 9x might compliment the 7x, but w/limited reviews it left me a mite leery. [/QUOTE]
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