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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kevin Purcell" data-source="post: 1385592" data-attributes="member: 68323">The thumb indents are deeper but about the same size as the thumb indents on the Hawke and Promaster. This actually improves the grip of the Zen Ray compared to the other two bins. It give a more "positive" indent. Some may like that (other's may not ... I guess it depends on how it matchs up with your hands).I can see the shape of the metal just under the indents. The armor is quite thin at this point they've removed some to make the armor thinner at the indents. So I think they're at about the limit for this design.The armor thickness on the barrels is thinner than the Hawke too (I think). I find it easy to be able to wrap my fingers and thumb around the barrel for a solid "O" grip without touching the other barrel with the backs of my fingers. I can do this on the Promaster too but not quite on the Hawke for my 65mm IPD (that's the average male IPD). As it seems one of the natural grips for an open-bridge bin its nice that it works for me ("normal sized biggish male hands").Finally I prefer a smooth barrel (like the Promaster) but I find the rounded bumps are a bit more pleasant than the Hawke's diamond pattern on my bare hands.</blockquote>