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<blockquote data-quote="Fireform" data-source="post: 1562519" data-attributes="member: 65457"><p>I took mine out this evening just after sunset, pretty bright evening conditions after work. I brought them up to my eyes, and bam--a grey curtain obscuring the lower third of the field of view. This is not a fault of eye placement, it's a flaw in the construction of the binocular. Viewing without glasses and with the cups retracted I go straight from the grey crescent to the kidney bean of excess eye relief. I've owned and used scores of quality binoculars in the past decade and never seen anything quite like this. It was also the last straw--I'm returning mine. Good news for someone out there, that's for sure.</p><p></p><p>If viewing under those conditions doesn't matter to you, and it may well not matter at all to most birders, this problem is apt to strike you as minor to nonexistent. You might wonder what all the fuss is about, and I fully understand that. Viewing under those conditions does matter to me.</p><p></p><p>When I'm out hunting or looking for birds in woodsy or evening or otherwise difficult light conditions, the last thing I care about is how much I paid for my binoculars. What I care about is whether I can see what I need to see. If I can't, the binoculars aren't worth what I paid for them whether it was $20 or $2000.</p><p></p><p>I'm finally frustrated because there is so much about this binocular that is so right--sharpness, contrast, brightness, FOV--that under most conditions it's a world-beater. For the lack of a little blacking on a lens edges and a retaining ring, which couldn't add more than a dollar per unit, it comes up short.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fireform, post: 1562519, member: 65457"] I took mine out this evening just after sunset, pretty bright evening conditions after work. I brought them up to my eyes, and bam--a grey curtain obscuring the lower third of the field of view. This is not a fault of eye placement, it's a flaw in the construction of the binocular. Viewing without glasses and with the cups retracted I go straight from the grey crescent to the kidney bean of excess eye relief. I've owned and used scores of quality binoculars in the past decade and never seen anything quite like this. It was also the last straw--I'm returning mine. Good news for someone out there, that's for sure. If viewing under those conditions doesn't matter to you, and it may well not matter at all to most birders, this problem is apt to strike you as minor to nonexistent. You might wonder what all the fuss is about, and I fully understand that. Viewing under those conditions does matter to me. When I'm out hunting or looking for birds in woodsy or evening or otherwise difficult light conditions, the last thing I care about is how much I paid for my binoculars. What I care about is whether I can see what I need to see. If I can't, the binoculars aren't worth what I paid for them whether it was $20 or $2000. I'm finally frustrated because there is so much about this binocular that is so right--sharpness, contrast, brightness, FOV--that under most conditions it's a world-beater. For the lack of a little blacking on a lens edges and a retaining ring, which couldn't add more than a dollar per unit, it comes up short. [/QUOTE]
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