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<blockquote data-quote="ceasar" data-source="post: 1679082" data-attributes="member: 26155"><p>Well, here we go again Zen Ray! </p><p></p><p>Another quest for the Holy Grail! This time we cannot fail! Have faith in us. Our strength is as the strength of ten because our hearts are pure!</p><p></p><p>It is not enough that the SE lasted 15 years with fold down eye cups. Screw down are better but don't change them until you find out if you can use the same oculars with them. What if you redesign them and we don't like them? "Careful" is the watch word here. Some of us actually liked the rubber eyecups. You could end up with everybody mad at you!</p><p></p><p>Now about waterproofing! You can't please every one you know? Do you want to include the minority of amateurs who bird in cloudbursts while you already have the "mad dogs" and englishmen who bird and burn in the noonday sun happily using the binoculars as they are and who have no wish to lug around a binocular suitable for use by the military in the invasion of a satrapy in the monsoon ridden east!</p><p></p><p>Ah yes, there is also the quest to improve the 8 x 30 EII. Well that is easy! Simply devise a new leather or leatherette cover over it's magnesium body that will not work loose and fall off after a month of use. That should be easy. Nothing else on it is broke! So don't fix those parts of it! That's simple isn't it? You want to change the prisms? Get real! You want to make the 8 x 30 EII longer so it will fit a bigger number of large hands? Send these people Dr. Procrustes phone number instead and suggest they make an appointment with him. You want to give it a "flat field?" You want sharpness clear to the edge of it's 462 foot field at 1000 yards? How much are you willing to spend to get this perfection and how many lunatics will pay your retail price on it when you put it on the market. You seriously need a market study on this one!</p><p></p><p>Seriously folks, here is good advice. Take up your new quest on designing new SE's and EII's without their current flaws AFTER you have perfected all the problems inherent in Roof Prism binoculars.</p><p></p><p>Cordially,</p><p>BobB <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ceasar, post: 1679082, member: 26155"] Well, here we go again Zen Ray! Another quest for the Holy Grail! This time we cannot fail! Have faith in us. Our strength is as the strength of ten because our hearts are pure! It is not enough that the SE lasted 15 years with fold down eye cups. Screw down are better but don't change them until you find out if you can use the same oculars with them. What if you redesign them and we don't like them? "Careful" is the watch word here. Some of us actually liked the rubber eyecups. You could end up with everybody mad at you! Now about waterproofing! You can't please every one you know? Do you want to include the minority of amateurs who bird in cloudbursts while you already have the "mad dogs" and englishmen who bird and burn in the noonday sun happily using the binoculars as they are and who have no wish to lug around a binocular suitable for use by the military in the invasion of a satrapy in the monsoon ridden east! Ah yes, there is also the quest to improve the 8 x 30 EII. Well that is easy! Simply devise a new leather or leatherette cover over it's magnesium body that will not work loose and fall off after a month of use. That should be easy. Nothing else on it is broke! So don't fix those parts of it! That's simple isn't it? You want to change the prisms? Get real! You want to make the 8 x 30 EII longer so it will fit a bigger number of large hands? Send these people Dr. Procrustes phone number instead and suggest they make an appointment with him. You want to give it a "flat field?" You want sharpness clear to the edge of it's 462 foot field at 1000 yards? How much are you willing to spend to get this perfection and how many lunatics will pay your retail price on it when you put it on the market. You seriously need a market study on this one! Seriously folks, here is good advice. Take up your new quest on designing new SE's and EII's without their current flaws AFTER you have perfected all the problems inherent in Roof Prism binoculars. Cordially, BobB (: [/QUOTE]
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