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  1. John A Roberts

    zeiss sf 8x42 vs zeiss ht 8x42

    Hi Patudo (post #226), Good to see that someone picked up on the classical references used as secondary names on the Habicht line. From what I’ve been able to find out from various early flyers and later catalogues: the names were used as early as 1954, and; their use lasted until the late...
  2. John A Roberts

    zeiss sf 8x42 vs zeiss ht 8x42

    As with Zeiss and Leitz/ Leica, from it’s start in the late 1940’s Swarovski Optik also offered hunting orientated products, since hunters were a significant portion of the commercial market. But like the others, Swarovski was not solely or primarily focused on hunting sales. Their early flyers...
  3. John A Roberts

    zeiss sf 8x42 vs zeiss ht 8x42

    I don’t think that anyone would dispute that x56 binoculars are primarily intended for hunters, since they would be the largest identifiable group of purchasers. And that makes the point that within any binocular lineup (e.g. Zeiss HT or FL; Swarovski NL, EL SV or SLC, or; Leica NV or UV)...
  4. John A Roberts

    zeiss sf 8x42 vs zeiss ht 8x42

    Hi Andreas (post #182), That all sounds reasonable. Zeiss with its origin in the 19th century has very long hunting traditions (as does Leitz/ Leica). As a manufacturer of premium optics, the main civilian market for Zeiss products well into the 1970’s was the wealthy, whose recreational...
  5. John A Roberts

    zeiss sf 8x42 vs zeiss ht 8x42

    Hi Jerry, a) Your initial assertion was the unqualified: 'The Zeiss Victory HT was designed by hunters for hunters' b) Accompanied by your approval: 'and that is a good thing' And then you were taken aback when queried on it! I was surprised by the idea that Zeiss would have been so unwise...
  6. John A Roberts

    zeiss sf 8x42 vs zeiss ht 8x42

    Hi Jerry, 'Hop along' - well that certainly is rude of you! But in contrast, my 'even questioning (your) statement' is rude. So what's going on there? And as to your initial statement: You seem to be strangely credulous, in your inability to distinguish between an advertised claim, as...
  7. John A Roberts

    zeiss sf 8x42 vs zeiss ht 8x42

    Hi Andy (post #168), Well I always consider it a bonus if I've managed to irritate you. - - - - And for those who want a true measure of Andy in his own words, see posts #1,751 through 1,759 in this Ruffled Feathers thread: https://www.birdforum.net/threads/ukraine.418912/page-88#post-4480121...
  8. John A Roberts

    zeiss sf 8x42 vs zeiss ht 8x42

    Hi Jerry, Thanks for that. (the link is: Victory HT:New Zeiss Homepage ) After a quick look through: In post #13 JabaliHunter included an initial press release from March 2012, seemingly intended to coincide with IWA the premier annual European hunting exposition, that states (with bold...
  9. John A Roberts

    zeiss sf 8x42 vs zeiss ht 8x42

    Hi Jerry, I, and I’m sure others, would be interested to see any statement by Zeiss to that effect (to ensure the purity of the design process, were non-hunters escorted from the room?) Most would see the HT as the update to the long lasting and widely used FL line, specifically the A-K prism...
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