Help with Newt ID please - Greater Manchester (1 Viewer)

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sav

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• May 30, 2016

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Can anyone help ID this newt - Smooth or Palmate ? Seen on moorland in Greater Manchester. Many thanks.

 

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vipersgarden

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• May 31, 2016

• #2

probably Lissotriton vulgaris (by "zig-zag" dorsal stripe)
Mario

 

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sav

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• May 31, 2016

• #3

vipersgarden said:

probably Lissotriton vulgaris (by "zig-zag" dorsal stripe)
Mario

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Thank you!

 

ApusApus

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• Jun 1, 2016

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sav said:

Can anyone help ID this newt - Smooth or Palmate ? Seen on moorland in Greater Manchester. Many thanks.

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Both are very similar and widespread in the UK. The only way to be sure of which one is to check the throat .......... spotted on Smooth & Plain on Palmate!


Shane

 

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King Edward

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• Jun 1, 2016

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How long was this newt? Looks like quite a young one. I'd have said Palmate based on the fairly uniform dorsal stripe, which starts at the neck and continues well down onto the tail. In young Smooth Newts the stripe starts higher on the head and fades rapidly, before the hind legs.

 

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sav

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• Jun 2, 2016

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King Edward said:

How long was this newt? Looks like quite a young one. I'd have said Palmate based on the fairly uniform dorsal stripe, which starts at the neck and continues well down onto the tail. In young Smooth Newts the stripe starts higher on the head and fades rapidly, before the hind legs.

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Thanks again. It was small. About 2/3 size of adult Smooth Newt. I didn't have a clear view of the throat but no spots were visible.

 

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Welsh Peregrine

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• Jun 3, 2016

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I'm trying (but failing) to avoid the comment "if it's that tiny, it must be my newt!"