tittletattler
Well-known member
yeah but the first one's a clear cut herring gull also: look at the GCs, window and tail pattern...
another one from yesterday labelled kittiwake...http://waarneming.nl/fotonew/3/4096673.jpg
among the real cracks in holland there are tons of not so experienced people. usually in such large databases somebody looks for the right IDs?
What generation are the tertials on the first bird?
Cheers, Andy.