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More IDs from my trip to Alentejo Portugal (1 Viewer)
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dickdarwin
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stripe above the eye and pale coloured bill?
Jon Turner
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Could number 1 be a Corn Bunting?
dickdarwin
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Thank you
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Nutcracker
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1 - ditto to Corn Bunting
2 - probably Carrion Crow, but hard to rule out Raven
3, 4 - ditto to House Sparrow (3 an immature male, 4 a female - can't totally rule out Spanish Sparrow for the female)
2 - probably Carrion Crow, but hard to rule out Raven
3, 4 - ditto to House Sparrow (3 an immature male, 4 a female - can't totally rule out Spanish Sparrow for the female)
look at this page: http://www.birdforum.net/opus/Spanish_Sparrow
scroll down to the link to "search for photos ..." and click that. Concentrate on the females: you will see plenty of pale bills and stripes above the eye.
Niels
dickdarwin
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Thank you, very helpful.
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lou salomon
the birdonist
agreed.
dickdarwin
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Can you explain why it's a Cirl bunting? Incidentally is the 'c' hard or soft in 'cirl'?
Jon Turner
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Soft as in soft!
Nutcracker
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Soft in English ("serl bunting"), but hard in the Latin name ("emberiza kirlus")
In fact, specific name comes from Italian "cirlo", from the verb zirlàre (to chirp) which sounds neither as hard or a soft "c", but as a soft "ch" (like chirp!)
I still wonder how this term creeped (deformed, as "cerillo") into the Spanish "common" name for the closely related E. citrinella
I still wonder how this term creeped (deformed, as "cerillo") into the Spanish "common" name for the closely related E. citrinella
