johnrobinson said:Wow !!
Reading all the above posts about sharpening frightens the s*** out of me!
I have my cameras set on low contrast(in case I use high ISO at the last minute)and no camera sharpening.
All I usually do then is adjust contrast and brightness and give one degree of sharpen in Paint Shop Pro.Seem spretty simple compared with what you guys are doing !!
( I personally am sick of hearing the word "photoshopped" used as though its the norm.) Not in this post I must add by the way.
I feel we can get over awed by technicalities for the sake of it sometimes. Should we not strive more to get it right in the first place.!? The camera can do it if you talk to it nice!Cheers
JohnRobinson
johnrobinson said:Should we not strive more to get it right in the first place.!?
Yes we should, and I think most of us try to do that. But it’s really a matter of choice.johnrobinson said:Should we not strive more to get it right in the first place.!?
Don't forget your beloved "Fill Light" function, John!johnrobinson said:All I usually do then is adjust contrast and brightness and give one degree of sharpen in Paint Shop Pro.
Aye! We demand that people start talking about "Paint Shop Proing" their pictures!I personally am sick of hearing the word "photoshopped"
You need to check the manual I think. Sharpening is applied to RAW files in my current camera and was with my 10D. As to whether the conversion software keeps the sharpening? I've only used BreezeBrowser, which does keep it, but gives you the chance to change it.Roy C said:The need for sharpening to some extent comes back to the RAW v jpeg debate. It is my understanding that if you shoot in jpeg chances are the camera will do some auto sharpening but if you shoot in RAW the image will be unsharpened - (no doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong)
Cheers
Roy C.
Looks like Breezebrowser have been able to reverse engineer the Canon metadata so that their software can interpret it too."picture style" settings are metadata tags for use by Canon software only (or the on-board raw to jpg processing). Camera Raw won't be using them any time soon unless Canon publicly documents the metadata and raw file formats-even then it's doubtful that Camera Raw will use them. You can create your own Camera Raw settings to do essentially the same as the Canon "picture style".
johnrobinson said:Wow !!
Reading all the above posts about sharpening frightens the s*** out of me!
I have my cameras set on low contrast(in case I use high ISO at the last minute)and no camera sharpening.
All I usually do then is adjust contrast and brightness and give one degree of sharpen in Paint Shop Pro.Seem spretty simple compared with what you guys are doing !!
( I personally am sick of hearing the word "photoshopped" used as though its the norm.) Not in this post I must add by the way.
I feel we can get over awed by technicalities for the sake of it sometimes. Should we not strive more to get it right in the first place.!? The camera can do it if you talk to it nice!
Cheers
JohnRobinson
John just means the habit of using the brand name "Photoshop" to refer to any pp - he uses Paint Shop Pro very successfully, so by definition he never "photoshops" his pictures!mw_aurora said:Oh, by the way, what is wrong with 'photoshopping' an image?
Keith Reeder said:Hi Mark,
I'm actually saying that Roy is completely right!
No in-camera settings are physically applied to a RAW file (I'm not entirely certain if that also applies to EV comp).
Rather, information about the camera settings are exported alongside the RAW file as metadata, so that - if required, and depending on the software being used - those camera settings can be applied as part of the RAW conversion process.
But the settings aren't "physically" (for want of a better word!) applied to the RAW file as it comes out of the camera, in the way they are to a jpeg from the camera.
Hi Paul,bpw said:I agree with your logic Keith, but I’m sure the question from Roy concerns whether these in-camera settings will influence the end result when shooting with RAW. If the photographer converts RAW files in software that retains this information, whether the information is physically attached to the RAW image or not is academic, as the information then will be attached to the converted image.
Keith Reeder said:Hi Mark,
I'm actually saying that Roy is completely right!
No in-camera settings are physically applied to a RAW file (I'm not entirely certain if that also applies to EV comp).
Yeah, but Roy was talking about sharpening settings, so he's completely right..!mw_aurora said:And I was saying he is almost right
Exposure comp is applied and is the base exposure you adjust in RAW processing.
wikipedia said:Cameras that support raw files save these settings [in-camera sharpening, saturation etc], in the file, but defer the processing