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lou salomon
the birdonist
thanks. excellent.
lou salomon
the birdonist
adult male pale eyed cach with short wings, lviv area, 7.6.2014, kolya
hi kolya - see the outlined feature which made me definitely say "caspian" (which you never know in your area...) maybe some argentatus genes have intruded the whole lot of caspian population down to black sea. but evidence for such has yet to be given. many (about 5% of danube delta population) have a reduced p5 mark, lacking in the extreme case.
a herring gull, esp. eastern ones could look identic to your bird, including the long tongue. but bill shape is very typical for a strong male cachi, imo.
i guess you know my website about michs and cachs (don't work on it since some time :eat
: http://www.lou.bertalan.de/gulls/m_newest.php
cheers and good luck for ukraine :t:
ps: interesting bird: http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=494626&d=1399042315
hi kolya - see the outlined feature which made me definitely say "caspian" (which you never know in your area...) maybe some argentatus genes have intruded the whole lot of caspian population down to black sea. but evidence for such has yet to be given. many (about 5% of danube delta population) have a reduced p5 mark, lacking in the extreme case.
a herring gull, esp. eastern ones could look identic to your bird, including the long tongue. but bill shape is very typical for a strong male cachi, imo.
i guess you know my website about michs and cachs (don't work on it since some time :eat
: http://www.lou.bertalan.de/gulls/m_newest.phpcheers and good luck for ukraine :t:
ps: interesting bird: http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=494626&d=1399042315
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osprey0311
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Thank You very very much, Lou!!!))))
lou salomon
the birdonist
hi kolya, it's easier and still away from the big public in the ID forum to talk here, instead of sending PMs.
does this one: http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=494626&d=1399042315 have pikish feet?
does this one: http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=494626&d=1399042315 have pikish feet?
osprey0311
Well-known member
ok, thanks!:t:
Unfortunately, I don't know colour of feet, but in my opinion seems to be pinkish...
I will look for more photos, may be I have more photos of this Gull and I publish them here...
osprey0311
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osprey0311
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Cristian Mihai
Cristian Mihai
jogresh
Bimble and patch
Hi, a friend on FI mentioned that folks were seeking opinions on this bird:
http://fibowarden.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/2nd-june-quiet-daydespite-easterly.html?m=1
Any thoughts?
http://fibowarden.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/2nd-june-quiet-daydespite-easterly.html?m=1
Any thoughts?
lou salomon
the birdonist
hi odysseas!
this looks like a hybrid to me. black is far too extended for a pure 3cy med gull. let's ask other people here:
http://www.talk.gull-research.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1070
this looks like a hybrid to me. black is far too extended for a pure 3cy med gull. let's ask other people here:
http://www.talk.gull-research.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1070
lou salomon
the birdonist
seems to be within pure melanocephalus variation, ody: peter adriaens has attached some useful pics of 2nd cycle (2cy/3cy) med gulls with a lot of black in wingtip: http://www.talk.gull-research.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1070 o
lou salomon
the birdonist
yes it is.
lou salomon
the birdonist
hi pete,
first of all i had another look on that gull in your post 3031 - which now seems an obvious 2cy caspian.
the juvenile from today got to be a LBBG, see the slightly desaturated pic in which colours look better - still a bit pale for LBBG but ok. primaries are long and black
first of all i had another look on that gull in your post 3031 - which now seems an obvious 2cy caspian.
the juvenile from today got to be a LBBG, see the slightly desaturated pic in which colours look better - still a bit pale for LBBG but ok. primaries are long and black
