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Vultures:Beauty in the Beast -Natural World Friday BBC 21.00-22.00pm 31/1/2014 (1 Viewer)

Vultures are cool. However, the Beeb has already driven me nearly potty this week by referring to "the Vulture" in trailers etc as if there is only one species. I hope the programme itself will not be so crass.

John
 
Vultures are cool. However, the Beeb has already driven me nearly potty this week by referring to "the Vulture" in trailers etc as if there is only one species. I hope the programme itself will not be so crass.

John

I have to say that the programme was not a diappointment at all. I think this documentry showed that Vultures have characters and most important of all a place in the eco system

The one thing I found disturbing is that they are being poisoned (heard of it before). and it affected the eco system due to the excess rotting 'kill' lying around in the river system.

A bit more respect for these birds would be better now, and in the future. A better educatation of the local people would not go amiss - something needs to be done so species vultures do not become extinct.

I did not know that they are very effectual at being immune to all of the diseased that are around ie rabies, and foot and mouth - so they are a blessing in ther own right.

Beauty is not them, but a firm contender in the eco system is them through and through :t:

Regards
Kathy
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I have to say that the programme was not a diappointment at all. I think this documentry showed that Vultures have characters and most important of all a place in the eco system

The one thing I found disturbing is that they are being poisoned (heard of it before). and it affected the eco system due to the excess rotting 'kill' lying around in the river system.

A bit more respect for these birds would be better now, and in the future. A better educatation of the local people would not go amiss - something needs to be done so species vultures do not become extinct.

I did not know that they are very effectual at being immune to all of the diseased that are around ie rabies, and foot and mouth - so they are a blessing in ther own right.

Beauty is not them, but a firm contender in the eco system is them through and through :t:

Regards
Kathy
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Kathy,

Education will not help. The poisoning in Africa is by poachers after ivory adn rhino horn - they are motivated by greed and are not accessible to appeals to their better nature. The only solution is to kill them so quickly and consistently that their way of life becomes unsustainable and unattractive to them.

While I don't advocate killing ranchers I would hold them responsible for poisoning incidents on their land and after a first offence warning I would confiscate the land and turn them out.

As usual the numbers of humans involved are greater than the number of the animals - but the human species is not threatened and the animal species are. I refuse to give special status to humans in this situation.

This was the best wildlife programme I've seen for ages and CHJ is to be congratulated.

John
 
I've just watched this - superb programme. The photography was outstanding - that vulture v jackal scene - wow!
 
Caught the second half, and was most impressed. Well shot, clear, informative narration, conveying passion and wonder without resorting to hyperbole or being cloyingly twee. Most refreshing, i-player will be receiving a visit to get me up to speed on the first half.

Cheers

James
 
I have to say that the programme was not a diappointment at all. I think this documentry showed that Vultures have characters and most important of all a place in the eco system

The one thing I found disturbing is that they are being poisoned (heard of it before). and it affected the eco system due to the excess rotting 'kill' lying around in the river system.

A bit more respect for these birds would be better now, and in the future. A better educatation of the local people would not go amiss - something needs to be done so species vultures do not become extinct.

I did not know that they are very effectual at being immune to all of the diseased that are around ie rabies, and foot and mouth - so they are a blessing in ther own right.

Beauty is not them, but a firm contender in the eco system is them through and through :t:

Regards
Kathy
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Farmers and poachers are poisoning other animals and it is by eating these dead carcasses that Vultures are being poisoned.

China is the biggest market for horns and animal bones.

If only one thing could be done to reduce poaching it would be to stop Asian and particularly Chinese demand. Rhino horn now sells for more $'s per kilo than gold.

Preventing local famers from poisoning, e.g. lions, is another story

It was a very interesting programme and the fact that of the Migrating 1.5 million Wildebeest and 500,000 Antelopes and Zebra, maybe 10,000 die, (are drowned), in the migration and the reduction in Vulture numbers, through poisoning of carcasses is now causing pollution of the river because of rotting carcasses, (which in past years were eaten by Vultures).

Again, the influence of man has and is really making a real mess of nature, from the introduction of non native species through to the killing of animals for sport.

When I was in S Africa last year I spoke to a young S Africa who was a diving instructor. In winter he spent his time in Mozambique escorting mainly wealthy US "hunters" on big game shoots. He said that they were paying US$ 100,000 plus US& 20,000 per week to hunt and shoot ONE elephant - not sure how true it was but I had no reason to disbelieve him. He said that the tips were very good and it was the only way that he could make a living as , as a young white S African it was very difficult to find a job in S Africa.

He also said that the Chinese were "big" in Mozambique timber and that ivory and similar were being smuggled out in timber shipments.

If we could influence the Chinese it may help with animal conservation in Africa - from Rhino horn to Shark fins - (they kill sharks just for the fin which is sold locally for $10).

Another disturbing fact is that poachers hack the horns from Rhinos who are sometimes still alive, i.e. only wounded. They use chainsaws or hack away with machetes leaving the animal to bleed to death, (Rangers have found Rhino with their horns removed still alive and bleeding to death). On most game reserves they now tranquillise their Rhinos and saw the horn right down so that they are less attractive to poachers - plus they are using other techniques to render the horn unattractive to poachers)
 
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Good programme on a vastly under-rated species. Even as a nature lover and with some knowledge about animals and the eco-system I did not realise how important vultures were to the eco-system that they live in. Humans may poison carcasses to kill Lions but they do not realise other animals will feed on it such as vultures and the loss of these will be catastrophic for humans.
 
Good programme on a vastly under-rated species. Even as a nature lover and with some knowledge about animals and the eco-system I did not realise how important vultures were to the eco-system that they live in. Humans may poison carcasses to kill Lions but they do not realise other animals will feed on it such as vultures and the loss of these will be catastrophic for humans.

Were you not listening? The poachers poison the carcasses precisely so that vultures will die and not give their position away by flying around the carcass. Poachers - and farmers - know exactly what they are doing.

John
 
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