Vespobuteo
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Zeiss 20x60S und Zeiss 7x50 BGAT.
Hermann
still missing a porro…a usable one...
Zeiss 20x60S und Zeiss 7x50 BGAT.
Hermann
I would say that is not really correct. All else equal, at daytime if eye pupils constrict to 2,5mm both 10x42 and 10x50 will act like a 10x25, and consequently be equal bright.
Still the larger exit pupil of 10x50 will contribute to a better comfort because the eye positioning is less critical.
Technically it is correct, because the 50 has a bigger exit pupil and a bigger aperture, which gathers more light. Whether or not you are able to see the difference in brightness however, is another question.
HN
The weights of the current EL models (i.e. prior to the September 2015 release of the new EL range with new straps, lens covers etc.) are:
10X50 998gms/35.2oz
10X42 840gms/29.6ozs
This is a difference of 158gms/5.6ozs; 18.8%.
I know that I am biased because I have purchased a pair of 10X50, am lucky enough to have steady hands for using 10X and also strong wrists/arms. Even so, I wonder if too much is being made of the extra weight of the 10X50? Yes, having read all about this issue on this forum, even I was worried before making my purchase. However, I know 2 ladies who use EL 10X42's with no problems and I reckoned that my strength would carry my through.
That has proven to be the case BUT I do use a pair of carefully adjusted Swarovski harnesses and these make a huge difference. I have now worn the EL 10X50 for periods of well over 6 hours without taking them off and walked for over 12 miles on hilly country with no ill effects.
Vespobuteo, far be it for me to teach any granny/grandpa to suck eggs, but if you can get the 10X50 for 2000 Euro and if you can trial them with a money back guarantee, I think that you should buy them!! In reality, i do not think that the weight will prove to be the issue that you are expecting.
My pennyworth, for what it is worth.
Rolstone
Technically it is correct, because the 50 has a bigger exit pupil and a bigger aperture, which gathers more light. Whether or not you are able to see the difference in brightness however, is another question.
HN
You replied to Rolstones question about the direct comparisons between the EL 10X50 and the 10x42, and actually said that 10x50 will always be brighter.
If it's not always possible to make use of the higher brightness, I don't find it relevant to claim that it's always brighter. That will be like saying that it will always provide a brighter image, which is not true.
The weights of the current EL models (i.e. prior to the September 2015 release of the new EL range with new straps, lens covers etc.) are:
10X50 998gms/35.2oz
10X42 840gms/29.6ozs
This is a difference of 158gms/5.6ozs; 18.8%.
I know that I am biased because I have purchased a pair of 10X50, am lucky enough to have steady hands for using 10X and also strong wrists/arms. Even so, I wonder if too much is being made of the extra weight of the 10X50? Yes, having read all about this issue on this forum, even I was worried before making my purchase. However, I know 2 ladies who use EL 10X42's with no problems and I reckoned that my strength would carry my through.
That has proven to be the case BUT I do use a pair of carefully adjusted Swarovski harnesses and these make a huge difference. I have now worn the EL 10X50 for periods of well over 6 hours without taking them off and walked for over 12 miles on hilly country with no ill effects.
Vespobuteo, far be it for me to teach any granny/grandpa to suck eggs, but if you can get the 10X50 for 2000 Euro and if you can trial them with a money back guarantee, I think that you should buy them!! In reality, i do not think that the weight will prove to be the issue that you are expecting.
My pennyworth, for what it is worth.
Rolstone
Are these weights above include weight of strap, eye and optical lense cover. I thought these are weights of binocular only.
Sanjay Naithani
It might even be the worlds widest PORRO..
definitely missing a porro in the zeiss line up,
:t:
Are we haggling over the distinction between "will always be brighter" and "will always look brighter"?
Are we haggling over the distinction between "will always be brighter" and "will always look brighter"?
Yes, the harness really does weigh only 100 gms, less than I expected,
Rolstone
Why seems everyone to be bothered by a couple of grams? Yes, the SV50 is a bit heavier than the SV42, but for me personally it is just a matter of getting used to. When weight is important I think it might be wise to buy a 42mm instead. Weight also brings extra stability and less shake. I prefer the bigger EP and the more relaxed view of the 50mm over a little less weight of the 42mm. I didn't even bother to look at the 42, for me 50 is the way to go.
When we would have been talking about 8x bins, it's likely the 42mm would be my choice. 5.25mm EP is fine. That's probably also the reason why a 8x50SV doesn't exist.