Algarve Harrier (1 Viewer)

[ndsutcliffe]

Taken near Sagres Portugal early this morning. Clearly a juvenile harrier. The four visible "fingers" and suggestion of a pale collar suggest Pallid. The second image has been lightened. Pallid's are quite rare down here so posting for correction/confirmation.

 

[Dutchbirder64]

Juvenile pallid or montagu's harrier - Portugal

I would really appreciate some help with this ID! Thank you in advance! The harrier was high and always gliding so the photos are quite poor and the position does not help. Is it possible to tell if it's a monty or a pallid? (or hybrid) It does seem to have a pale trailing edge to the inner...

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same bird?

 

[rosbifs]

The face pattern doesn't look the same - the other has more white in the face by the looks

Subject to the photo being deemed good enough the black meeting the bottom mandible points to pallid and little white in the face...

Others will be more concise

 

[Butty]

Do you have more photos? - especially if showing head/chest/shoulder, perched and in flight.

 

[ndsutcliffe]

Do you have more photos? - especially if showing head/chest/shoulder, perched and in flight.

Unfortunately not, I took more but the other photos were very poor

Do you have more photos? - especially if showing head/chest/shoulder, perched and in flight.

 

[skbirder]

Absolutely a Pallid Harrier with that face pattern and white collar.

 

[ndsutcliffe]

Absolutely a Pallid Harrier with that face pattern and white collar.

Thanks all - I will go with Pallid