Dawn chorus (1 Viewer)

[Monahawk]

A very noble winding down post Dram7. You,'ve taken some difficult replies on the chin without getting rattled.
The art to teaching young children on a subject like birds is to keep the whole thing simple but entertaining. Get it right first time and I tell you it's great fun. Go all scientific and 'by the book' and you've lost their attention in no time at all, as a great birding friend of mine here found to his cost when he gave a talk to primary school children at a local school a couple of years ago. He didn't heed my advice at the time and at the end of the session he told me he wished he had. He's never given talks to kids again though.
It's tough but enjoyable.
I hope your talk goes well. Good luck. Remember.- Keep it simple.

 

[hollis_f]

I think it's still backwards. It seems far more likely that the preferance for singing at dawn, which has a number of explanations already stated in this thread, has led to the current incubation schedule where it exists.

That sounds reasonable. It also explains why the female-nocturnal, male-diurnal, shift pattern seems to be ubiquitous. If there weren't a good reason for it then you'd expect it to be totally random which sex incubated during the day and which at night, with inter-species, if not intra-species, variations.

 

[dram7]

A very noble winding down post Dram7. You,'ve taken some difficult replies on the chin without getting rattled.
The art to teaching young children on a subject like birds is to keep the whole thing simple but entertaining. Get it right first time and I tell you it's great fun. Go all scientific and 'by the book' and you've lost their attention in no time at all, as a great birding friend of mine here found to his cost when he gave a talk to primary school children at a local school a couple of years ago. He didn't heed my advice at the time and at the end of the session he told me he wished he had. He's never given talks to kids again though.
It's tough but enjoyable.
I hope your talk goes well. Good luck. Remember.- Keep it simple.

Will do Thanks

 

[dram7]

That sounds reasonable. It also explains why the female-nocturnal, male-diurnal, shift pattern seems to be ubiquitous. If there weren't a good reason for it then you'd expect it to be totally random which sex incubated during the day and which at night, with inter-species, if not intra-species, variations.

It was always known to us kids. not just me,and lead to my "speculation".
It is gratifying to know that in general the day, night observation was not well known(I think)Shades of Darwin.Thanks