Fred Ruhe
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If you read Kessler, 2013 you can see that he uses Sylvia pussila n. sp. (directly copies from the paper, so no typo on my side) throughout the paper.Pussila or pusilla ?
Fred
If you read Kessler, 2013 you can see that he uses Sylvia pussila n. sp. (directly copies from the paper, so no typo on my side) throughout the paper.Pussila or pusilla ?
I think it's a mistake (not a typo) from the author. The name appears several times in the paper but, it seems that the word pussila doesn't exist at allIf you read Kessler, 2013 you can see that he uses Sylvia pussila n. sp. (directly copies from the paper, so no typo on my side) throughout the paper.
Fred
I agree with you, this paper is famous or the mistakes in names, many names are written with diacritical marks like híri, jánossyi etc. I know he ment pusilla, but the original spelling is pussila and has not been emended (yet), so here I give the name as given by Kessler: Sylvia pussila, although I don't follow his diacritical marks in other names.I think it's a mistake (not a typo) from the author. The name appears several times in the paper but, it seems that the word pussila doesn't exist at all
Is it bad or a good paper ? Nobody had the courage to see if there were homonyms in his work? 😬I agree with you, this paper is famous or the mistakes in names, many names are written with diacritical marks like híri, jánossyi etc. I know he ment pusilla, but the original spelling is pussila and has not been emmended (yet), so here I give the name as given by Kessler: Sylvia pussila, although I don't follow his diacritical marks in other names.
Also see Lots of new Neogene Passeriformes from Hungary with a comment of Peter Kovalik.
Fred
I will not comment on this question other than that I think it is a useful paper, with many, obvious, mistakes, it is one of the first papers on fossil Neogene Passeriformes and the paper with far the most newly described fossil species ever, but whether it is good or bad you have to decide for yourself. Some species received a new genus, but you will find out when I continue with the descriptions of all fossil Passerimorphae.Is it bad or a good paper ? Nobody had the courage to see if there were homonyms in his work? 😬
Günther A, Newton E. 1879. The extinct birds of Rodriguez. Phil. Trans. R. Soc. London, 168: 423-437.Necropsar rodericanus Slater, 1879. (in Günther et Newton, 1879)
I don't have the paper, don't know the title and cannot find it on line, so help is needed.
I wrote to professor Kessler, and I just received an answer:Turdus praeminor Kessler, 2019
Eugen Kessler, 2013
Neogene Songbirds (Aves, Passeriformes) from Hungary
Hantkeniana 8: 37-149
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Eugen-Kessler/publication/287410379_Neogene_songbirds_Aves_Passeriformes_from_Hungary/links/577e2ba108aeaee3b2831f3d/Neogene-songbirds-Aves-Passeriformes-from-Hungary.pdf?origin=publication_detail Remark: Turdus praeminor Kessler, 2019 is a new name for the preoccupied name Turdus minor Kessler, 2013.
Unfortunately I don't have Kessler, 2019 and can't find it on line, so help is needed.
Clearly a junior homonym of Petronia brevirostris Taczanowski, 1874Petronia brevirostris Tchernov, 1968
Eitan Tchernov, 1968
Well spotted, Jim. You are correct, but unfortunately there are more preoccupied names in paleornithology. Not often somebody takes the time to correct them. In this thread I gave the names as they are used at this moment.Clearly a junior homonym of Petronia brevirostris Taczanowski, 1874
Well, T'd rather leave that to the specialists, who are better qualified than you or me. What I can do is make a list of the preoccupied names in paleornithology I know of and I will try to do so when I finished rhe series (we are near the end, but still there is some work to do) "descriptions of all fossil …"Here we go to write together a manuscript to fix it x)
I've already done it 2 years ago, in Zootaxa 😉who are better qualified than you or me.
Not a bad ideaWhat I can do is make a list of the preoccupied names in paleornithology I know of and I will try to do so when I finished rhe series (we are near the end, but still there is some work to do) "descriptions of all fossil …"
What is the paper?I've already done it 2 years ago, in Zootaxa 😉
Carlsbergia, a replacement name for Indiella Sautya, Tabachnick and Ingole, 2011 (Porifera: Aulocalycidae). Zootaxa 4571 (1): 145–146What is the paper?