Pushing on ...
Nutcracker, You´re right as fa as Denmark isn´t mentioned in that particular sentence …
The book by Pontoppidan is called "
Danske Atlas" ("Danish Atlas", for the full title, see Post No. #20) and the Chapter (where "
Aalge" appear) is "
Om Land- og Wand-Fuglene i Dannemark" (On Land- and Water-bird in Denmark"), which starts on p.
614, where it clearly tell´s us that Pontoppidan here intend to present a full List of "…
Danske Fugle… som henhøre til Landets Natur-Historie." (… Danish Birds … which belong to the Country's Natural History."). He even typed the
Danske Fugle in bold letters …
If Denmark´s not "mentioned" I don´t know what is!?
But we can leave this issue here, the type location is a side-track (for the HBW/IBC Crew, however they would know of this disagreement?), and let´s return to our Topic; etymology.
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Let´s also leave the pondering (Post No. #20-25) and true origin of the Danish/Icelandic
aalge to Mr. Jobling …
I´ll have to push on (the "
Aalge" is not on my list of "Swedish Names", simply included in this thread for "completeness" sake and as an understanding of this next post); however, the etymology of
aalge is clear, at least as far as; it´s a version of
alke/
alca (Auk).
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So, let´s deal with the next, even more mixed-up, Guillemot … or Murre.
lomvia
● in Thick-billed Murre
Uria lomvia LINNAEUS 1758
* as "
Alca Lomvia" a k a "Brünnich's Guillemot" or "Brünnich's Murre"
= is an old Swedish, dialectal name
lomvia (following the Norwegian
Lomvi or
Lomvie) for today's Common/Thin-billed Murre or Common Guillemot
Uria aalge.
*Not to be confused by "
Uria Lomvia" BRÜNNICH 1764 [syn.
U. aalge PONTOPPIDAN 1763]
Note: The Old Norse name;
langve (pre-1300's) originating from Iceland, apparently covered both species. Also the later
langivia and the following Nordic names;
lomvi,
lomvie and
lomvia has all been used simultaneously on both (of today's)
U. lomvia and
U. aalge. The Species concept sure wasn´t as important in those days.
This is (still today) reflected in the Nordic Common names of the Common/Thin-billed Guillemot/Murre
U. aalge which is (in full);
langvía (Icelandic),
lomvi (Norwegian) and
lomvie (Danish). Sweden and Finland is the odd ones out, calling this species;
sillgrissla resp.
etelänkiisla. Also compare with the Faroese names
Lomviga or
Lomvigi. While the Thick-billed/ Brünnich's Murre/Guillemot
Uria lomvia, in the same Countries, nowaday's is called;
stuttnefja (in Iceland),
polarlomvi (Norway),
polarlomvie (Denmark),
spetsbergsgrissla (Sweden),
pohjankiisla (Finland) and either
Íslandslomviga or
Íslandslomvigi (Faroe Islands).
Maybe even more interesting is that this
lomvia is a derivative of
lom (as in Loon) the ancient Nordic name for Black-throated Diver
Gavia arctica LINNAEUS 1758 (as "
Colymbus arctica") a k a Arctic/Black-throated Loon. This Swedish
Lom (Loon) originates, in its turn, in the old Norse
lōma-. Compare with the today's Norwegian, Swedish, Danish and Icelandic:
lom – as in modern Norwegian and Swedish;
storlom ( "Great
lom) or the Danish;
sortstrubede lom ("Black-throated
lom"). Also consider the Icelandic; (earlier)
lómr, still "alive" in today's
Lómur (the latter for Red-throated Loon
Gavia stellata).
In Swedish texts today's
lom (for the Loon) is known from the mid-1500's (as
loohm, loom or
lohm), and thereafter as
lomm or (as today's Swedish)
lom (already in the mid-1600's). It was also, later, called
lumme or
Lumbe in Swedish. Compare with the synonyms
troile/
troille in the
HBW Alive Key.
Note: in his
Systema naturæ 1758 Linnaeus did place the [thicker-billed] "
Lomvia" with the other Auks in
Alca, with no experience of the bird itself, simply trusting the work of earlier Authors. Linnaeus clearly wasn´t aware that this name included (today's) two species of Guillemots/Murres, and that this name eventually would happen to stick on the one he never met!
The ending (suffix) -
via (and -
vie) as in
lomvia alt.
lomvie [i. e.
lom (loon) + -
vie/-
via]
might, could have its origin in, or being related to, the Old Nose word
veiðr (hunt) – although no consensus rule regarding this certain interpretation – if so (!) meaning something like "hunting loon" alt. "chaser-loon"!?
PS. Also note that for a long time today's
U. lomvia was considered simply a variety (or, for quite a while, a subspecies) of
aalge … at least till 1899 when Dr. Svenander proved them clearly distinct, breeding side by side on Bjørnøya (Bear Island, Beeren Eiland), South off Spitsbergen [i. e.
U. l. lomvia LINNAEUS 1758 and
U. aalge hyperborea SALOMONSEN 1932]
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