Gray-lined or Gray Hawk (1 Viewer)

[49bentley]

Can someone please identify this bird? I think it's a Gray-lined Hawk. If not then Gray Hawk. Taken at Carara National Park in Costa Rica in January.
Thanks
Chris

 

[THE_FERN]

Can someone please identify this bird? I think it's a Gray-lined Hawk. If not then Gray Hawk. Taken at Carara National Park in Costa Rica in January.
Thanks
Chris

I would have said grey hawk based on contrasting darker upper parts, lack of barring on neck to head area etc

 

[arcadillor]

grey hawk

 

[49bentley]

Thanks Fern and arcadillor.

 

[Andy Adcock]

I would have said grey hawk based on contrasting darker upper parts, lack of barring on neck to head area etc

Always far more useful to people when you give and ID with an explanation as to how you got there, as here, instead of just naming the bird.

 

[THE_FERN]

Always far more useful to people when you give and ID with an explanation as to how you got there, as here, instead of just naming the bird.

Agree (obviously!), but difficult if English isn't your first language

 

[49bentley]

Thanks Andy and Fern.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Agree (obviously!), but difficult if English isn't your first language

It's an English language forum so I'd expect most who use it, to be fairly capable?

 

[THE_FERN]

It's an English language forum so I'd expect most who use it, to be fairly capable?

Not necessarily-see for example arcadillor's introductory post. English is the universal birder language, though, so you have little choice but to try it if you want foreign input. Anyway, I look forward to your explantions of the Ids you post... ...I have learnt much from such on this forum

 

[Valéry Schollaert]

It's an English language forum so I'd expect most who use it, to be fairly capable?

I think we have people with poor English that are trying as there is no equivalent Wordwide as Birdforum and it is very ok that they comment identification as they can.

I another hand, English is the main language of bird books, so many foreigners can perfectly explain in English.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Not necessarily-see for example arcadillor's introductory post. English is the universal birder language, though, so you have little choice but to try it if you want foreign input. Anyway, I look forward to your explantions of the Ids you post... ...I have learnt much from such on this forum

I always try and point out any salient ID features when necessary, most often, when a poster is suggesting another, similar species. In this thread for example, it would have been useful to state why, you ID this bird in such certain terms, over another, very, similar species.

I likewise, await you availing us of your knowledge.

 

[njlarsen]

There is one good id essay: https://ebird.org/camerica/news/was-that-a-gray-hawk-or-a-gray-lined-hawk-i-just-saw/?lang=en

Niels

 

[THE_FERN]

I always try and point out any salient ID features when necessary, most often, when a poster is suggesting another, similar species. In this thread for example, it would have been useful to state why, you ID this bird in such certain terms, over another, very, similar species.

I likewise, await you availing us of your knowledge.

Umm are we getting mixed up here—perhaps with someone else's post? I said:

"I would have said grey hawk based on contrasting darker upper parts, lack of barring on neck to head area etc"

...Think that my reasoning is fairly clear, isn't it? There's more one could say but these 2 id marks are perhaps the clearest [and summarised from the ebird article Niels linked]

 

[Andy Adcock]

Umm are we getting mixed up here—perhaps with someone else's post? I said:

"I would have said grey hawk based on contrasting darker upper parts, lack of barring on neck to head area etc"

...Think that my reasoning is fairly clear, isn't it? There's more one could say but these 2 id marks are perhaps the clearest [and summarised from the ebird article Niels linked]

It seems that we are, I was not referring to you and I thought that was clear from what you wrote in post 9.