Hen or Montagu's Harrier? NRW Germany 30 Apr 2023 (1 Viewer)

[Andy Hurley]

Hi folks!
saw this harrier this morning, 30 Apr '23, near Paderborn, NRW, Germany. Not sure which one though. It was gaining height on the morning thermals, so I think it is likely to be moving north..

Any help with the ID greatly appreciated, although I can't see a black band on the secondries, which may point to Hen Harrier rather than Monty's. Sorry about the IQ, it was far away and is heavily cropped.

Thanks very much!

 

[Richard Prior]

Sorry about the IQ, it was far away and is heavily cropped.

Thanks very much!

You shouldn't apologise for your IQ Andy, we can't all be super intelligent
My not very brainy reaction is that it has that 'chunky' Hen Harrier look about it rather than the more rakish jizz of a Montys.

 

[lou salomon]

I'm seeing a Sparrowhawk...

 

[MacNara]

I'm seeing a Sparrowhawk...

 

[Andy Hurley]

Thanks very much everyone!