Id help please. Sparrow or thrush or something else? Ottawa Ontario, early July, 2023 (1 Viewer)

[bhutjoe]

Hi, attached are two not very informative photos but perhaps (as too often happens) I am missing a salient detail. I was thinking fox sparrow due to the tail colour and that I think I saw (and perhaps in the first photo can see) a sparrow's beak. Habitat was a city park ravine.
Any advice, comments or ideas on what this bird is would be much appreciated.
thank you in advance
steve

 

[payaminotom]

From my very limited knowledge of US birds my first thought was Fox Sparrow, i think you're right

 

[Harrier22]

If it is a fox sparrow, it's well out of its typical range. The swamp sparrow is much more common in Ontario and has a similar tail. Did you by chance hear it?

 

[tom baxter]

I think it looks more like a Song Sparrow to my eyes.

 

[bhutjoe]

Thank you for taking the time to look at these photos and for your comments. Unfortunately it was silent for the brief time it was in the bush. I had thought fox sparrow, as compared to song sparrow, by the length and colour of its tail,but that would be most unusual, as mentioned by Harrier22, in Ottawa in July. Swamp sparrow is interesting, though the habitat would be a bit odd I think - while there was a ravine it was not really a moist area. And the tail does appear long.
Interesting to consider swamp and song, which means I need to pay more attention to the birds I see
Another not clearly identified I guess.
Thank you very much for the ideas, which I will use in future, especially when i look at song sparrows, which are very common in the area.
steve

 

[qwerty5]

Certainly not Fox, it's either Song or Swamp.

 

[bhutjoe]

Thanks Qwerty5, much appreciated.
steve