Is this a ring? (1 Viewer)

[MikeInPA]

It looks like ring but wanted to get another opinion.

 

[KC Foggin]

It looks like it is a ring.

 

[Jon Turner]

I don't think so. If it is it is very worn, and you can almost always make out some of the data on a ring.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Maybe a band on it's left leg too?

 

[farcego]

I don't think so. If it is it is very worn, and you can almost always make out some of the data on a ring.

Agree. It is something odd but it does not looks like a ring to me

 

[jmepler]

I think that it is just the light and shadow that gives that impression. The bird's belly is in shadow, and the area of the legs that appear to be rings are just in the sun. This makes them look lighter, similar to the bird's head.

 

[Hauksen]

Hi Mike,

It looks like ring but wanted to get another opinion.

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Is this the raw picture or has it been passed though some AI "resolution enhancer" or similar?

These might be able to generate unexpected artifacts.

Regards,

Henning

 

[MikeInPA]

Hi Mike,



Is this the raw picture or has it been passed though some AI "resolution enhancer" or similar?

These might be able to generate unexpected artifacts.

Regards,

Henning

Hi Henning,

yes it’s been DeNoised but that’s not going to add what looks like a ring on its leg.

 

[MikeInPA]

Answered the question myself. I found some shots I'd rejected and found this one which doesn't appear to show a ring just the feathers above the bare part of the leg.

 

[Hauksen]

Hi Mike,

yes it’s been DeNoised but that’s not going to add what looks like a ring on its leg.

AI (neural network)-based filters are a whole new ballgame when it comes to image artifacts.

Try Craiyon, formerly DALL-E mini ... it's an AI that generates images based on descriptions.

Totally generic examples:



Now the trick with using neural-network based AIs is to generate images based on other images, adding only so little detail that it looks as if one just applied an usually effective traditional filter ... but neural networks aren't all that easy to rein in.

In the case of ringed/banded birds, there's also a very real chance that the training material used to teach the neural network is based on a picture set dominated by birds in captivity, which tend to be ringed a lot more often than birds living in their natural environment.

Regards,

Henning

 

[MikeInPA]

As I stated above, it's NOT an artifact from Topaz DeNoise. This is a cropped JPG from the original Nikon NEF file.

 

[Hauksen]

Hi Mike,

As I stated above, it's NOT an artifact from Topaz DeNoise. This is a cropped JPG from the original Nikon NEF file.View attachment 1456024

I fully agree, I just intended to explain why I posed a strange-sounding question that a couple of years ago would have been entirely unnecessary

Great shots by the way, even the rejected one!

Regards,

Henning