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(Edited to add that this is to clarify what Goatnose was trying to say. Originally I misunderstood Bonsaibirder's above post.)
He states very plainly that it is a video of a 'juvenile Pileated' not an IBWO. It is the FAST flap rate that he is concerned about because he has just captured on film a 'fact' that will disprove the validity of the use of flap rates as a diagnostic tool to distinguish an IBWO from a PIWO.
Needless to say, in his post, he is bemoaning the loss of this 'diagnostic tool'. Goatnose is not trying to say he has captured an IBWO on video.
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Post #5390Tim Allwood said:am i missing something?
whatever the flap rate is (impossible for me to ascertain) it's a PIWO
Tim
Bonsaibirder said:Point is Tim that Goatnose thought he had found a video of a Pileated flapping at a rate previously thought to be diagnostic for IBWO.
(Edited to add that this is to clarify what Goatnose was trying to say. Originally I misunderstood Bonsaibirder's above post.)
He states very plainly that it is a video of a 'juvenile Pileated' not an IBWO. It is the FAST flap rate that he is concerned about because he has just captured on film a 'fact' that will disprove the validity of the use of flap rates as a diagnostic tool to distinguish an IBWO from a PIWO.
Needless to say, in his post, he is bemoaning the loss of this 'diagnostic tool'. Goatnose is not trying to say he has captured an IBWO on video.
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Post #5387
Goatnose said:Flap Rate
I am discouraged in presenting this video or someone prove me wrong. Is not this flap rate of a juvenile Pileated at a rate that is way too fast to be a Pileated? Please prove me wrong.
http://www.tyler.rrtstudios.com/Photos/Juvy_0003.wmv
thanks for your comments
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fangsheath said:I'm afraid I am not able to get a wingbeat rate from your video. There is just too much intervening vegetation to chart wing positions, and the flight portion of the video is very brief. From Dave Nolin's videos I get pileated wingbeat rates as high as 9.0 Hz for the first 0.3 sec after launch.
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