Redpolls, SW Norway (2 Viewers)

[rylirk]

Just wanted to check these finches from the Stavanger area over the last week:
1 & 2: Redpoll sp.s, both Lesser?
3 & 4: Both of the same individual. Another lesser redpoll?
5 & 6: Both of the same individual. Juv linnet?

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Hello,
like you, I hope for comments abot the tricky ID of the "Redpoll-complex", but the last one is another Redpoll imo

 

[rylirk]

I have a couple more photos of most of these if they would be helpful, but they are mostly pretty poor quality (except the last bird, I have several more images of similar quality to what I've already posted). I'm not even really sure what to be looking for to separate redpolls! I think Lesser and Common/Mealy are expected in the area

 

[maplekong]

Lesser redpolls seem to have more colouring on their breasts, common has less. But biology is living stuff, and living things are complicated. Amongst them are birds, who I think are the most icky organisms to categorise, apart from insects.

 

[THE_FERN]

Lesser redpolls seem to have more colouring on their breasts, common has less. But biology is living stuff, and living things are complicated. Amongst them are birds, who I think are the most icky organisms to categorise, apart from insects.

Plants are definitely up there. Phenotypically more plastic and with a far greater tendency to hybridise (than either birds or insects)

 

[THE_FERN]

There is but one species of redpoll...

 

[rylirk]

Not yet, at least according to the IOC Any ideas on which ones we might have here though?

 

[THE_FERN]

Yes

Not yet, at least according to the IOC Any ideas on which ones we might have here though?

Yes you clearly have the redpoll redpoll... Perhaps the second bird is a bit colder, bit more like the "common" phenotype. The first one is brown like the "lesser" form

 

[rylirk]

By the second bird, do you mean P...387?

 

[THE_FERN]

By the second bird, do you mean P...387?

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