Small grasshoppers, Switzerland/France border (1 Viewer)

[S_Man]

They all look different but I suppose they are Meadow Grasshoppers (last 2 pictures) Pseudochorthippus_parallelus, and Common Field Grasshopper Chorthippus brunneus?
The 4th picture looks different, maybe the 5th too...
Very hard to shoot with a lot of wind and hot temperatures, and I'm not into macro...

 

[pdwinter]

4. (in addition to 6 &n7)is also a Pseudochorthippus parallelus.
5. is possibly Stenobothrus lineatus
1,2,3 is a Chorthippus species but there are a few choices on the French/Swiss border.

 

[S_Man]

4. (in addition to 6 &n7)is also a Pseudochorthippus parallelus.
5. is possibly Stenobothrus lineatus
1,2,3 is a Chorthippus species but there are a few choices on the French/Swiss border.

Thanks. 1, 2, 3 were different individuals, but look quite similar...

 

[pdwinter]

Thanks. 1, 2, 3 were different individuals, but look quite similar...

They look like they are in the biggutulus group of which I think the following occur in the area - C.brunneus, C.biggutulus, C.mollis and C.eisentrauti .

 

[S_Man]

More grasshoppers...
The abdomen of the 1st looks a bit like Stenobothrus lineatus but not the top...

 

[pdwinter]

More grasshoppers...
The abdomen of the 1st looks a bit like Stenobothrus lineatus but not the top...

The 1st is a male Pseudochorthippus parallelus Meadow Grasshopper (short wings with a costal bulge over the tympanal opening, black knees, broad black line behind the eye, almost parallel sides to the edge of the pronotum).
The other 2 look like 3rd instar nymphs of Gomphocerippus rufus which over here in the UK we call Rufous Grasshopper but the international common name is White-clubbed Grasshopper.

 

[S_Man]

The 1st is a male Pseudochorthippus parallelus Meadow Grasshopper (short wings with a costal bulge over the tympanal opening, black knees, broad black line behind the eye, almost parallel sides to the edge of the pronotum).
The other 2 look like 3rd instar nymphs of Gomphocerippus rufus which over here in the UK we call Rufous Grasshopper but the international common name is White-clubbed Grasshopper.

Thanks, these Meadow Grasshoppers are so variable, all 4 specimens in this thread are different and they are all adults?
I'm totally lost, I saw the abdomen is longer than posterior legs in my 1st post, but it's the opposite here... maybe it's a male/female thing?

 

[pdwinter]

Thanks, these Meadow Grasshoppers are so variable, all 4 specimens in this thread are different and they are all adults?
I'm totally lost, I saw the abdomen is longer than posterior legs in my 1st post, but it's the opposite here... maybe it's a male/female thing?

Yes - Meadow Grasshoppers can be any combination of brown and green colouration, with some black thrown in and sometimes reddish end of abdomen in the males. Females usually have very short wings as in your original post and males usually have shortish wings not reaching the hind knees (as in your pic in post 5) - but there can be long-winged individuals in both sexes although these are quite scarce! Females are much bigger and do have longer abdomens. Males have longer antennae and their eye is larger as a proportion of head size. A mating pair photo attached.

You can see a variety on European locusts and their ecology: Chorthippus parallelus

I have the first edition (and also now the english language version) of this book https://www.fnac.com/a15747413/Eric...France-Belgique-Luxembourg-Suisse-2em-edition and it is very good but what none of the field guides can do because a lack of print space is show the enormous variation in colouration of the species. E.g. for Chorthippus brunneus there were 12 different categories of colour combination described by Ragge and within those there's quite a variation

 

[S_Man]

Thanks for the website and book references.

To be honest I don't feel a new passion for insects, my interest is my small plot of land, there are a few species of birds that are on the local red list (quite common birds in fact not sure why they are on this local list, eg Cirl bunting, Kestrel, Red-backed Shrike, etc.), then trail cameras (and roaming cats) gave me +20 species of mammals - that's including rodents, but nothing "of interest" yet.

Recently while waiting in my hide with my camera I found this Napoleon spider which was not on the local list, although it's found all around this area in both countries, so my idea was to start a personal "survey" about insects, but now I understand it's almost impossible. I'd better go the other way, and focus only on rarer species, and just try to see if I can spot one! Also despite my ignorance I can notice obvious differences in insect populations from year to year, so trying to be exhaustive would be an unending task...

Back to my grasshoppers, I understand this one is also a (young female) Meadow Grasshopper, with short wings, black knees, broad black line behind the eye...

 

[pdwinter]

Yes - a female Meadow Grasshopper.

 

[S_Man]

Different family, it's a bit in pieces, but maybe it's possible to ID it?

 

[pdwinter]

Different family, it's a bit in pieces, but maybe it's possible to ID it?

No! How do you know it's a different family ?

 

[S_Man]

No! How do you know it's a different family ?

I'm looking at different websites and comparing images, it looks more like a Tettigoniidae (to me!)...

 

[pdwinter]

I'm looking at different websites and comparing images, it looks more like a Tettigoniidae (to me!)...

Is (or was) it a nymph or an adult ?

 

[S_Man]

No idea, I can't find any adult that looks exactly like that, but most websites are not exhaustive when it comes to photos that's why I'm asking.
Front (and hind) legs look huge compared to the body...

 

[pdwinter]

I'll have to leave this one to Ficedula to Id.

 

[Val35]

Is (or was) it a nymph or an adult ?

It's a nymph, the wings are wrong for an adult.
Will check my field guide to see if it's possible to id...

 

[pdwinter]

The very last bit up onto Shipstall Hill is a gentle slope, the rest is pretty level. Good luck if you decid to go. Where was your 1995 bird? Was it the one that has seemed to migrate between Anglesey and the Ythan?

It's a nymph, the wings are wrong for an adult.
Will check my field guide to see if it's possible to id...

Yes - I could see it was a nymph but I wanted to check if the poster had determined that before insisting it was a different family Good luck with the attempted Id.

 

[S_Man]

Another one from earlier in the season... I was thinking maybe Decticus verrucivorus or Bicolorana bicolor, but I can't find any picture or description that match perfectly, I suppose it's not 100% adult either?