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the bird feeder was busy today (2 Viewers)
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stonechat1
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The brown birds are House Sparrows, Brandon.
Simon Wates
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Plus an American Goldfinch on the far right of the 2nd photo. Blue Jay really is a stunning creature!
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You may change your mind after seeing this (may contain graphic images, depends on what you consider graphic).
JoeRawles
Feathers Wild Bird Care
They're very welcome here in the UK but as the link above demonstrates, not native species anywhere can cause huge upset to the native biodiversity. Here we have Ring necked Parakeets which are certainly a nuisance, as well as of course the Grey Squirrel. Both are examples similar to the House Sparrow in the US. I would never have thought they could be so aggressive!
ok that is wild! i would i would never thought such a tiny bird could do such things. I have not seen anything like that here a my feeders yet. i got pics oh house sparrows fighting with each other but no deaths happened that i am aware. Now i am wondering what i should do there is hundreds o house sparrows living here
stonechat1
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I think poorly about old fanatic ladies when they write things like:
Monitoring nests and breeding success doesn´t need disturbing acts like the above mentioned! You don´t even have to open the nestbox or approaching in nearer distance. This woman has only her ownl goals (hand feeding training, photographing, etc.) in mind.
Her own words:
Source: http://www.sialis.org/picture0814threesome.htm
Source: http://www.sialis.org/monitoring.htm
That isn´t a good thing, that´s illegal acting (disturbing breeding birds!)
Also from that website:
Source: http://www.sialis.org/monitoring.htm
Well, blaming only invasive species for the loss of many birds seems weird to me. I couldn´t find only one line on her website where she states what to do with cats roaming around or that she´s appreciating dead trees provoding nesting holes. Right contrary she´s proding people to take nest photos!
A real birder who care for birds never would act like that woman!
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so question about this because this is what gets me. It's illegal acting to disturb nesting birds but yet she goes out and does so and even puts proof up with pics and name credits but no legal action has been taken? why not?
Not directed towards you jzmtl but the poster of the link you provided.
I am sick and tired of people going after the House Sparrow
The Sparrows did not get here all by themselves. They were brought to the US and all they are doing is trying to survive. It's called nature. They don't make a daily list of the damage they can cause and set out to accomplish this. Yes, they can cause problems with our native birds but again, it's not their fault they are here. Okay, rant over.
Technically all the bluebird box operators are doing illegal things if you put it that way, yet they are responsible for the recovery of the bluebird population. Feel free to google other sites on house sparrow, that isn't the only one.
The poster you quoted has repeated affirmed his love for house sparrows and don't care about the damage they do, but he's European so I guess can't blame him.
Although I stopped to take him seriously after he suggested all French should be exterminated, because the French are invasive specie to the native Americans. No matter how much he wish to follow the teaching of that countryman of his, all human are the same specie so the concept of invasive specie doesn't apply.
Not directed towards you jzmtl but the poster of the link you provided.
I am sick and tired of people going after the House Sparrow
The Sparrows did not get here all by themselves. They were brought to the US and all they are doing is trying to survive. It's called nature. They don't make a daily list of the damage they can cause and set out to accomplish this. Yes, they can cause problems with our native birds but again, it's not their fault they are here. Okay, rant over.
No invasive specie choose to be here or does anything you said, yet we will drain an entire lake to get one individual, and poison the water to stop others. Why does house sparrow get a free pass, because they are fluffy, or because they aren't impacting our wallet?
That is not what i said at all. box operators checking boxes for recovery plan of the bluebird population are doing it for their job. Is this lady doing it for her job or is she doing it her back yard because she thinks it's fun or a hobby?I think there is a major difference doing it for a job and being licensed to do so and just doing it or fun and not being licensed.
There is a point here some invasive species do get killed on the spot like snakehead fish , berm pythons. However like i said earlier there is hundreds of house sparrows living here and i have yet to see a house sparrow kill another bird at my feeders. I feel that this is a rare occurrence based on what i am seeing.
Most bluebird box operators are volunteers doing it for fun and aren't licensed (is there even a license for it?). If you look through the site you'll see she isn't doing it in her backyard. Her views and methods (i.e. wing clipping) is at times a bit extreme, but that doesn't invalidate the photographic evidence.
House sparrows don't kill at feeder, they only kill the nestling and eggs, sometimes parents. There are tons of photos and witness reports on the net if you are willing to look for them. I only started this two years ago and didn't even know they are invasive specie till then, but I've seen enough to decide that I would not support the growth of their population.
stonechat1
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Bluebird box operators? By themself appointed. And I doubt that they are responsible in a legal/official way. They rather regarding themself a "little" too important.
From another website protecting bluebirds against the cruel House Sparrow:
Source: http://yhst-60107113779235.stores.yahoo.net/spblho.html
But no hint on the website that trapping native birds is illegal without a license! Also note the "SHOULD" instead a more properly "MUST"!!!
Blame better those people who are destroing nature and cutting out every dead tree from the forests. Stealing bluebirds many nesting cavities.
Not again this story, it didn´t already work the last time so why should it now? It was a comparison and you know that very well.
What are you talking about? Meaning Adolf Hitler? That´s offtopic here. BTW, he didn´t hold austrian citizenship when he gained power in Germany nor later. You should educate yourself first before telling BS.
Feel free to tell us about Drancy and about the extradition of the jews, mainly stateless from other european countries like Austria, Czech, etc. in the beginning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drancy_internment_camp
Better not here, we prefer talking about birds 8-P
yes back to birds! because i find this all interesting
so by that logic i can go out and trap owls eagles and hawks or any other bird right? I volunteer 9 months of the year to reptile and amphibian recovery and you can NOT take any species of reptile or amphibian out of the wild without a PA fishing license. i doubt birds can be taken without some kind of permit as well or what would the point of protecting them if you are not going to do anything about it and let people trap them and "should release". I do no that here in PA you can not shot any bird that does not have a hunting season and you must have a hunting license. So trapping them without a license and not having to release them makes absolutely no sense to me
so by that logic i can go out and trap owls eagles and hawks or any other bird right? I volunteer 9 months of the year to reptile and amphibian recovery and you can NOT take any species of reptile or amphibian out of the wild without a PA fishing license. i doubt birds can be taken without some kind of permit as well or what would the point of protecting them if you are not going to do anything about it and let people trap them and "should release". I do no that here in PA you can not shot any bird that does not have a hunting season and you must have a hunting license. So trapping them without a license and not having to release them makes absolutely no sense to me
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