US Western Tanager expert question (1 Viewer)

[MiddleRiver]

Posted on a couple of FB pages (ABA...) but thought I'd ask here.
Saw this yesterday W of Shenandoah Valley around 4000' ASL. Didn't look 'right' and I grabbed a couple of quick pics. There's been suggestion it's a juvenile male Scarlet (sometimes show wingbars?) and the wings do look dark (lighting artifact?) but I can't get over how distinct the wingbars are. Currently in ebird review - I listed as Western, hoping it would get reviewed by a better birder than me!
Western? Weird Scarlet?

 

[lgonz1008]

Someone can freely correct me, but based on time of year and location, I'd say you have a young Scarlet Tanager. Those look less like wing bars and more like fledgling feathers that haven't gotten adult plumage yet.

Plus, we are still early in the year for vagrants/dull plumage birds in the Eastern US.

 

[njlarsen]

The gape certainly makes it look like a fledgling.
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Juvenile plumage similar to Basic I female, except plumage washed brownish, wings with 2 distinct pale wing-bars

Niels