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Like confessing to murder - giving up birding (1 Viewer)

John Cantelo

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This is something that's been rattling around in my addled brain for some time, but is so shocking that I've been loathe to voice it. The truth is I am birding less and less in the UK and wonder if I'm on the brink of giving up ....

If pressed I would say that I started birdwatching in the winter of 1962/63 although family mythology has it that I was interested in wildlife at least 6 years earlier. However, 1962/63 marked the time I first set out (sans family) on a ‘proper’ birdwatching expedition (probably to Titchfield Haven or Farlington Marsh), got together with like minds at secondary school and soon thereafter joined my local NHS. So I’ve had an interest in birdwatching for a shocking 50 years and yet I now find myself less and less inclined to go out birding in the UK – despite living in a prime position in the UK to do so. Stealing Darwin’s famous words seems the only way to convey the guilt associated with the heretical notion of giving it up.

The truth is, unless showing people birds (from which I continue to get huge enjoyment), I find myself enjoying a day in the field here in the UK less and less. The reasons aren’t hard to fathom. Walking around my local marsh I now struggle to see a Yellow Wagtail – indeed I only saw one there this spring - whereas previously small flocks were the norm. The throbbing drumming of Snipe is now scarcely to be heard and certainly not in previous numbers. Yet the reserve is well managed, the habitat better than ever and the marsh certainly looks superb. But here, as elsewhere, birds like Turtle Dove and Cuckoo are now to be found in a shadow of their former abundance. I’ve only had a single Willow Warbler which, despite my self confessed lethargy, is appalling. On a recent visit an ex-pat and expert birding friend (one of that band from school) was aghast that he didn’t see a single Song Thrush during his three week stay. Finding birds like Marsh Tit, Willow Tit, Nuthatch, Lesser-spotted Woodpecker, Grasshopper Warbler and Redstart - once not too difficult locally - is now impossible or a matter of ‘twitching’ the sad remnant that still persists. Birds that were once abundant and everyday – Yellowhammer for example – now have to be sought out. Just look at the successive atlas maps for my home county to be found at http://www.kentos.org.uk/atlas/ to gain a picture of the avian Armageddon which has taken place in the last half century. Yes there are compensations in the form of Cetti’s Warbler, Little Egret, Marsh Harriers, etc., but the dearth of birds in any numbers (where are the winter murmurations of Starlings?) makes for melancholy. Twitching the occasional rarity scarcely makes up for the bone achingly depressing absence of so many old friends from hedgerow, wood, marsh, field or shoreline. The awfulness of doing atlas work and finding myself walking through a wheat fields for 25 minutes without seeing or hearing a single bird still haunts me.

Drop me down somewhere else that still has birds in numbers, or at least unfamiliar birds in numbers, and the old habits kick back in. I rush about, I look, I enjoy and I enthuse. The instincts are still there and the interest is still thriving (witness my obsessive interest in SW Spain), but in the UK this passion is no longer fed such as to sustain it past those days when birds seem unnaturally thin on the ground. Abstract notions about birds and birding still fascinate (it's an ingrained habit), but actually going out and doing it locally has less attraction than at any point in my life. So who else is willing to admit to pseudo-homicide and confess that birding in the UK (as distinct from the adrenalin rush of twitching) no longer has the allure that it once held?

Deep breath, now press that 'Submit New Thread' box, confess all and for ever damage my credibility on BF!
 
Drop me down somewhere else that still has birds in numbers, or at least unfamiliar birds in numbers, and the old habits kick back in. I rush about, I look, I enjoy and I enthuse. The instincts are still there and the interest is still thriving (witness my obsessive interest in SW Spain), but in the UK this passion is no longer fed such as to sustain it past those days when birds seem unnaturally thin on the ground. Abstract notions about birds and birding still fascinate (it's an ingrained habit), but actually going out and doing it locally has less attraction than at any point in my life. So who else is willing to admit to pseudo-homicide and confess that birding in the no longer has the allure that it once held?

John,

You are not alone in this, I agree broadly with what you've said. Personally, over the years my birding focus has changed, I now do most of my birding abroad, OK I can't get away as much as I'd like, 3 or 4 times a year max (pending lottery win of course), but this feeds my need. Birding for me means seeing new species and places and I appreciate that birding means different things to different people, but that is what makes me tick. Yes I'll still go out occassionally and will twitch a bird that I'd like to see, but that is the extent of my UK birding now. As far as giving up, answer this question - could you imagine going on holiday without your bins?

All the best,

Mark
 
John

I suspect you have started what will become a very lengthy (and perhaps contentious) thread.

When I retired from my job in Paris last year we decided to avoid the UK for a variety of reasons - and the decline in the old familiar birds such as those you mention was one of those reasons. I'm sure that some of those birds will have declined in the Netherlands as well - although we seem to be inundated with Cuckoos on my local patch this year! I've yet to see a Mistle Thrush or a Green Woodpecker this year although that is more likely as a result of where we live than any decline. I've yet to see a Yellowhammer in the Netherlands!

On our occasional visits to the UK I usually take the binoculars but mainly for sea-watching from the ferry. Once in the UK there is a depressing feeling, particularly driving towards and around the M25. Thursley Common is close to where we usually stay and that has a nice variety of birds - but they just don't seem to be there in numbers (apart from Hobbies hawking over the marshy bits).

I also suspect that, in your case, your regular visits to Spain are compounding your feelings. I suspect that most of us, on returning home after a good birding trip abroad - or even elsewhere our own country - feel a bit deflated. I recall a couple of years ago taking a trip to the Auvergne region of France and racking up good numbers of good birds. Returning to my local patch in Paris - the Bois de Boulogne - was a bit "after the Lord Mayor's Show".

Maybe the answer is to move to Spain permanently!

David
 
When the going gets tough..... it is in the current climate, with birds in decline everywhere in Britain and the lunatics in charge of the asylum, that oldies like yourself, with tales of how it used to be, are most needed to refute suggestions that it doesn't matter, its always been like this, etc.

I accept fully that birding is harder than it used to be. I accept that you are getting old and weary and have lost the thrill of the chase. But you have a duty to the birds to put something back for the pleasure they have given you, and to do it here - even if its only telling passing grockles that take an interest what they are missing and how they should contribute/lobby/vote to improve matters.

Today's grockle is tomorrow's raspberry.

John
 
No, no, it's just a mood, it will pass. Lousy weather, early July, not much happening ...

I've been birding even longer than you, and still get a huge amount of pleasure out of it. Atlas surveys have a lot to do with it: Devon still has a local effort going on, and it takes you to places you wouldn't normally think of going. But even when that's finished I'm sure I'll still be out there (though I admit I'm not this afternoon).

Whether it's relentlessly recording the declines, as FJ says, or just enjoying the simple pleasures of seeing and hearing birds, it's got to be worth going on.
Wasn't it you who wrote that wonderful post back in March about evening Bitterns rising in flocks above the marshes ? Don't tell me you've lost heart when you can experience something like that, please.
 
Walk through an English woodland and you will notice how great it looks compared to the average Western European woodland, which tends to be of much younger age and generally scarcer in interesting plant growth.

But on the bird front, I found Herts and Essex woods just horrible: the odd crossbill would make your day! Compare that to a wood in the Netherlands or western Germany... Farmland birds have declined drastically as well though, but the "basic" level is so much better that I tend to spend almost every evening birding (something I didn't do in the UK).
 
Is it really possible to give up birding?
If something fluttered in to your field of view would`nt you look, even if just out of habit.
 
I accept fully that birding is harder than it used to be. I accept that you are getting old and weary and have lost the thrill of the chase. But you have a duty to the birds to put something back for the pleasure they have given you, and to do it here - even if its only telling passing grockles that take an interest what they are missing and how they should contribute/lobby/vote to improve matters.

Today's grockle is tomorrow's raspberry.

John

I'm not sure I like the suggestion that I'm "getting old and weary" however true it might be. Neither is it about the 'thrill of the chase' since I was always a lousy twitcher - its more the depressing paucity of birds seen in day-to-day birding.

Come to that I do not need to be told that I have a 'duty' to put something back (which I'm sure wasn't meant to be quite so patronising as it came over). I'm pretty sure too that I've already 'given back' rather more than the average birder having led innumerable field trips, partaken in survey work (probably too little), edited books, published articles, supported the RSPB and my county society, etc and I fully intend to continue to do so. Indeed these days the 'giving back' is my most enjoyable birding activity. I very much enjoy taking people out birding. Oddly my enthusiasm then is never wanting. Nor is it, as some seem to have assumed, a broader disenchantment with living in the UK - I'm old fashioned, but I can't see myself living elsewhere as there's much about old blighty I dearly love.

I will continue to raise my eyes to passing birds and I feel like I've forgotten to put on my trousers if I venture into the countryside sans binoculars. No, the point is birdng in the UK often turns out to be a disappointing and depressing experience. Another example - Spotted Flycatchers used to be something I saw without effort or thought in spring and throughout the summer. Now I can go a whole summer without a single bird and seeing 2-3 in a day in autumn passage makes it a red lettered day,
 
Whilst people of our birding generation may bemoan the lack of Yellow Wags, Turtle Doves, Spotted Flycatchers etc etc, many things have improved.Look how easy it is to regularly see, watch and enjoy Peregrine, Red Kite, Buzzard, Goshawk, Bittern plus of course great increases in Med Gulls, Little Egrets (and, give a few years, all the other European herons).
Summer 'blues' get us all especially in a year where the weather is against 'insect watching'.
Sometimes a different 'sub-genre' of birding is needed; ringing, photography or possibly pan-species listing to pep up the dull periods and provide a different focus (no pun intended).
However, I don't think I'm ever going to think that dissecting an insect's genitalia or ticking a slime-mould is going to 'float my boat' the way a Wallcreeper (for instance) would!!
Russ
 
I confess my own birding has been slowing noticeably over the years. Some of that is simply due to time. As a graduate student, I don't get a "day off", and the last two weekends have been spent analyzing data for example. And part of it is simply local apathy. It's really hard to work up much interest for birding in this part of Wyoming, as diversity is low, and we effectively have winter birding conditions often starting in November and going into May.

During winter, it's pretty amazing that a whole day birding can net you more than 14 species...and almost half of the list is non-native stuff. Even when weather is nice, your options are limited. You can bird the degraded riparian area on the greenbelt, where often you see more unleashed dogs than bird species. You can drive an hour to the really good mountain habitat, which is low diversity, and at the moment, ON FIRE. Or you can tool around the plains lakes, where you can get a good diversity, but it's almost entirely the same trip list EVERY TRIP. And if you do see a good bird, no one cares; even a first record is largely ignored by the few people with interest in birding.

I don't think I will quit birding. However I can definitely say that I don't have much interest in local birding, and probably really won't get back into the swing of things until I finally move away from here (unfortunately next summer now).
 
and...

John, I don't know how to respond to you. But...I have lived in rural Idaho for most of my life (two unfortunate attempts to live in the "big city" that ended in an alcoholic stupor). When I was very young, we had pheasants - almost too many - as farmers still had borders of undeveloped or underdeveloped land around open fields, then came the modern contractor and the anxiety (and greed) about open space. The result is we have more developed land, increase in production, heavy use of pesticides and a significant drop in ring necked pheasants.

Idaho still has an abundance of sagebrush desert, foothills and mountain ranges that features a nice selection of species, but it is slowly being "utilized," for the "good of everyone." The result has been less habitat and less birds.

I don't know if I feel exactly as you do, but I feel some depression when I see perfectly good "empty space," that is being used so well by native avifauna, torn up to build homes, put in nuclear (and other types of) power plants and exploration for fossil fuels via "fracking."

I don't mind seeing the same species - in fact I look forward at each change of season to the return of missed friends. What I do feel bad - in fact resentful about - is the slow disappearance of my friends as they succumb to climate change, habitat destruction and the mind numbing stupidity that masquerades under the heading of "reasonable land use," and the ever nauseous "people first," which is another term for...greed. Of course, we can't forget our divinely given right to procreate. And because it is our right, we run the risk of procreating ourselves right out of existence. After we are gone, maybe the birds will make a comeback.

In that sense - I think I may have some appreciation for what you are saying. And I don't think it is unique to "Old Blighty."

And now after that overwhelming gust of good cheer, I think I will drive over to the last patch of greenery and watch a robin...before the contractor paves it over for a new grocery center (centre?).

John
 
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It stayed with me over 50 years and the eye training never goes away but it was a big refresh to get to S Africa and Northern Australia these last few years each winter.

Now have a new toy in the form of 4:3 Gx1 and a 300 stabilized zoom I just grabbed tonight - so new life in the hobby. I use a motorcycle for a cruise around platform and that adds to enjoyment.
 
Personally birding for me comes and goes, with other commitments taking over, I still love getting out, but the trips are rare at the moment, but I don't think you can ever really "give up" birdwatching. Once you have the bug you will always see the birds, and always notice them, you may just aim to partake in the actual activity less.

In your case John, farmland birds are always going to be a struggle, the garden of England is no longer the wonderful rich landscape it once was farming practices are destroying much of Kent (acid scouring the fields so they can plant cabbage all year round year after year, the huge glass enclosure that is planet thanet, less and less in the way of orchard growth or hop plants), but with the way the RSPB is buying tracts of land it may once be restored, or at least a nice corridor.
 
John,

I know exactly how you're feeling, & as has been mentioned elsewhere, you start to look at your own 'patch' in a different light when you travel further afield.
There are times when i no longer go birding, but instead, i go for a walk & take my binoculars just incase i see something.
That way, if i don't see anything, i've enjoyed some fresh air & some healthy exercise, if i do see something, its a bonus.
Those bonuses are getting few & far between, but when they do happen, the buzz soon comes back, & the adreniline kicks in.
 
Whilst people of our birding generation may bemoan the lack of Yellow Wags, Turtle Doves, Spotted Flycatchers etc etc, many things have improved.Look how easy it is to regularly see, watch and enjoy Peregrine, Red Kite, Buzzard, Goshawk, Bittern plus of course great increases in Med Gulls, Little Egrets (and, give a few years, all the other European herons).
Russ

The trouble is, of course, that if you counted up all the 'additional' Peregrines, Red Kites, Goshawks, Bitterns, Med Gulls, Little Egrets plus Buzzards, Cetti's etc., I rather doubt that you'd reach a total to match the loss of birds seen in an individul species like, say, Turtle Dove. Most of the species listed have, by their nature, relatively small UK populations.

Of course, posters are right to suggest that I could no more stop looking at birds and enjoying them than I could decide not to breathe. In this respect my somewhat melodramatic title is misleading. The reality that I now find any enjoyment in birds constantly counter balanced by a form of ennui induced by the essential lack of birds across a breadth of habitats is rather too subtle to suggest in a snappy heading. I suspect being recently retired has something to do with it too since I no longer need birding to provide the ecape from a stressful work environment. I sometimes used to call birding at weekends my "stepping stones to sanity". In part it may be no more than a reflection of my idleness and, although it's not fashionable to admit it, my preference for enjoying my wife's company to dashing about on birding specific jaunts. Eitherway somehow birding no longer seems to fill a void - I remain uncertain whether this is because that void no longer exists or that birding itself has changed in the way I've mentioned. It is an altogether odd experience given my lifelong obsession (undimmed in many respects)!
 
John,

As a fellow retiree I feel almost exactly the same as you, I've seen one Cuckoo this year, all the Corn Buntings and a majority of the Lapwings are gone. I walk the dog in our local country park and some nights I don't see any birds apart from Jackdaws. I very rarely twitch these days, Siberian Rubythroat on Shetland being the only bird that's inspired me to get off my backside in the last year.
My wife always comments that when I'm birding abroad I seem to be able to carry on all day which I never do here. I really look forward to holidays abroad, Portugal and North America in particular are great. Off to Budapest next month which should be very interesting.
 
John

You can't really give up birding - you might think you can, but when something catches your eye diving into a bush, the old instincts will kick in. That's not to say that you are not right about everything else that you have posted.
 
I feel much as John does, and it means that when I'm in the UK, I rarely actively go birding these days, as I find other aspects of life more fun than wandering about in progressively more trashed countryside with progressively fewer birds in it, especially as half the time is spent in traffic jams getting places, and there's nowhere to park when you get there, cos our van won't fit under the height restriction barrier.

Still bang into the excitement of birding abroad though, especially in wild and/or bird-filled places. And still of course look at/hear everything that's about when I'm off to the shops for a loaf of bread etc :).
 
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Giving up birding in the UK 'cos there are fewer birds than when you were a yoof John!!!!!!!!!! Admittedly I can sympathise with much of what you say but ............... are you sure you're getting enough roughage in your diet? ;)

Chris
 
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