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    Binocular Sightings

    Saturday on a tipical birding eventi in the North of Italy. About 40 birders. Impressive: every binocular 'top of the line" was a Swarovski. No Leica and no Zeiss spotted. In Italy Swarovski Is really monopolist
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    Montagu's or pallid harrier in Italy

    I think Your are right. I've seen pictures of adult pallid harrier with pale spots but not so big like this bird. Now I believe that this is a 2cy of montagu's: my first idea!
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    Montagu's or pallid harrier in Italy

    but pallid adult has barred axillaries. This is the problem.
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    Montagu's or pallid harrier in Italy

    I see that the difficulties are a lot. For me the main problem is: is this bird an adult ora a 2cy? Because if we decide this, the solution would be quite easy
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    Montagu's or pallid harrier in Italy

    here other pictures. Any idea welcome
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    Montagu's or pallid harrier in Italy

    Thank you Alexander: I have other pictures: as soon as possible I will post them. Unfortunally they are on another pc. Very difficoult bird: in this trip I saw antoher 2cy female of montagu's and an adult female of pallid, but this bird seems a match of both of them.
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    Montagu's or pallid harrier in Italy

    Hi everyone. I have problems to identify this harrier. Photo taken in the end of April in Ustica (south Italy). At first I thought a 2cy female of MONTAGUS' but then I considered a light adult female of PALLID. Any opinion? Thanks! Marco
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    Sykes's wagtail? North Italy

    Hi everyobody, yesterday I saw a Citrine Wagtail in Monza, north Italy. A very rare bird, which was in the middle of other wagtails. One of these seems to me a ssp. Beema, called Sykes's warbler. What do you think about it? Thank You. Marco
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    possibile cretzschmar's bunting in Italy - 22.04.2012. Identification very difficult

    I agree with you: I see this crafter too. Unfortunally there is no talk in italian mail in list about this bird. I'm really in doubt about it. Thank you for your help.
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    possibile cretzschmar's bunting in Italy - 22.04.2012. Identification very difficult

    An italian birder said that it coul be an old ortolan bunting. Sometimes they lose colours and they get the head grey. But I wonder if an ortolan buntung could have these colours of the underparts, expecially of the upper tail coverts.
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    possibile cretzschmar's bunting in Italy - 22.04.2012. Identification very difficult

    Thank You Sherpa. But the bird in the picture You have posted isn't a Grey Headed Bunting? I see grey scapulars...
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    possibile cretzschmar's bunting in Italy - 22.04.2012. Identification very difficult

    Exactly, this one is really very similar to mine. I can't see very well with my actual monitor but maybe the bird You have posted is less grey in the head and the facial stripe is a little bit more colored (a very very light yellow). But it's the most similar bird to mine that I've ever seen in...
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    possibile cretzschmar's bunting in Italy - 22.04.2012. Identification very difficult

    Thank You! But there is only a caracter that doesen't match: can a cretzschmar's have submustachial stripe, throat and lores whitish and not orange at all? For Collin's yes, but I couldn't find any picture of a bird like this. Thank You again!
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    possibile cretzschmar's bunting in Italy - 22.04.2012. Identification very difficult

    Thank You: the picture that You have adjusted is almost perfect. Probably the bird was only a bit more brilliant, especially in the head that was a grey that was very visible and very different from any ortolan I ever seen, also in picture. No traces of any yellow and green tones. That's why I...
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    possibile cretzschmar's bunting in Italy - 22.04.2012. Identification very difficult

    Sorry Shane, but I can't find the ortolan You said
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    possibile cretzschmar's bunting in Italy - 22.04.2012. Identification very difficult

    2nd and 4th pictures are saturated because strong light had really "killed" some colors. The bird was "two colored": grey and light orange/red. The ortolan next to this bird was a little bit closer
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    possibile cretzschmar's bunting in Italy - 22.04.2012. Identification very difficult

    Hi everybody! In Italy a discussion of this identification has just started and I need your help. I had observed this bird 4 years ago, on 22.04.2012. It was tighter an ortolan bunting. The thing I noticed is that it appeared clearly different, with only grey and orange tones. No green or...
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    pallid harrier? Italy

    the 2 central feathers of the tail appeared darker but not moulted like this. It's a doubtful caracther because I'm note sure abuot this: I only remember that outher feathers were lighter and the tail appeared to me the tipical tail of an harrier. It wasn't moulted like the latter picture. I'm...
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    pallid harrier? Italy

    The same picture, elaborated on photoshop. Can we say that is really a pallid harrier? For me yes;)
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    pallid harrier? Italy

    I have the same doubt: I am looking the picture from a phone but it seems to me a 2cy male pallid
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    pallid harrier? Italy

    Thank's Tib78. I forgot to say that upperparts were concolor brown, without the tipical pattern of juveniles. Tail had the 2 central feathers dark. Is really possible to find a 2 cy montagu's like this?
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    pallid harrier? Italy

    Hello, today I've found an interesting pallid/ montagu's harrier. This is what I've looked: - concolor orange-light brown belly and breast, without any streaking; - very dark secondaries; - no dark trailing edge on underwing; - showing pictures I notice that primaries are only little dark...
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    Collared Flycatcher? North Italy

    The crop of primary patch, as asked to me in italian forum. I hope ita can help.
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    Flycatchers: Kotor, Montenegro

    3rd should be a pied flycatcher beacuse of the color, very brown.
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    Collared Flycatcher? North Italy

    I also posted the pictures on an italian forum and there is an interesting discussion about this bird. Absolutely not sure it's a collared. Now the option "pied flychatcer" is growing! I hope that experts will take part at this discussion
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