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Panama hummingbird ID's (1 Viewer)

Cedric K

Hey hey!!
Hi all,

This is a question for neotropical hummingbird specialists. I took these shots in Panama, and am not sure what they are...

#1 is a male Sapphire-throated Hummingbird, I think. Picture taken in garden in Penonomé.
#2 and 2a are the same bird. I think it's an immature Sapphire-throated Hummingbird. Picture taken in garden in Penonomé.
#3 is a male Garden Emerald, I'm pretty sure. Picture taken in garden in Penonomé.
#4 was taken in El Valle. No idea what this could be...

Any help is greatly appreciated!! Thanks!

Regards,
Cedric
 

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A few more!

Here's a few more, pretty tough...

#5 was taken in El Valle, no idea what it is. May be impossible to ID due to bad quality of picture.
#6 is a female Sapphire-throated Hummingbird, I think. Picture taken in a garden in Penonome.
#7 is a Hermit, but which one? Picture taken on Pipeline Road.

Thanks for the help!!

Cedric
 

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If no one answers you here soon try the Panama City post on the Hummingbird board. Frogdoondey is a local there and may well be able to help your IDs.
 
is that last hermit Band-Tailed Barbthroat?

I like the sickle shape bill and black throat for it?


Cedric K said:
Here's a few more, pretty tough...

#5 was taken in El Valle, no idea what it is. May be impossible to ID due to bad quality of picture.
#6 is a female Sapphire-throated Hummingbird, I think. Picture taken in a garden in Penonome.
#7 is a Hermit, but which one? Picture taken on Pipeline Road.

Thanks for the help!!

Cedric
 
Not much to go on...

cuckooroller said:
Number 7 - not Threnetes. It looks like a large hummer - possibly Eutoxeres aquila salvini - White-tipped Sicklebill.

Thanks guys.

I have to say I'm leaning towards Band-tailed Barbthroat for exactly the same reasons as Peachfront mentioned: black throat and shape of bill. I just don't think that bill is curved enough to be a White-tipped Sicklebill, and the black throat also doesn't really fit.

Maybe it's just impossible to ID due to the (lack of) quality of the picture...

Any Panamanians out there with some ideas?

Regards,
Cedric
 
Panama Hummingbirds

Hola Cedric:

Hope you enjoyed your time in Panama and managed to see many birds. Sorry to have been out of touch for a while, but have been spending little time by the computer, and mostly out birding...tough life :)

We recently concluded a birding program with members of the Tennessee Ornithological Society in Panama. Our group birded around the country for two weeks and managed to record 460 different species, including more than half of the country’s hummingbirds, which considering a total of 56 species in Panama, that was really good; and even a lifer for me ! a heavenly Snowy Cotinga.

In response to your hummingbird pictures,.. the Sapphire-throated Hummingbird and Garden Emerald look about right.

Your picture #4, taken at El Valle, is a really interesting shot. It is a Snowy-bellied Hummingbird (Amazilia edward) notice the whitish lower belly. What is interesting is that Cocle province, around El Valle, corresponds to the westernmost distribution of the widespread A. edward niveoventer race that would have a greener lower back, but you were fortunate enough to capture the nominate endemic race A. edward edward found normally in eastern Cocle and Eastern Panama, with the rufous lower back.

As for pic #5 @ El Valle, you are right it is very hard to pick any features in the photo. If you provide more info as to where it was taken (garden, cattle ranch, forest/edge, etc) we might come up with some educated guesses :)

I agree with your #7 at Pipeline Road being a Band-Tailed Barbthroat. The contrasting light malar stripe and the dark throat, gives it away. The White-tipped Sicklebill that we regularly see in the Eastern foothills, doesn’t show that pattern in the face and has a more curved bill; although I can see how the angle of the bird’s face in the picture can give a sickle appearance.
In addition, the first section of Pipeline Road, where the picture was probably taken, is much drier than the type of forest Sicklebills usually dwell.

Look forward to your comments.

Warm regards from Panama,
Guido

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Cedric K said:
Thanks guys.

I have to say I'm leaning towards Band-tailed Barbthroat for exactly the same reasons as Peachfront mentioned: black throat and shape of bill. I just don't think that bill is curved enough to be a White-tipped Sicklebill, and the black throat also doesn't really fit.

Maybe it's just impossible to ID due to the (lack of) quality of the picture...

Any Panamanians out there with some ideas?

Regards,
Cedric
 
Hi Guido,

Thanks for your help. I certainly enjoyed my time in Panama. It was my 9th visit, but the first time I really had a chance to go birding for a few days. No one of my family members are birders, you see. Nevertheless I saw 175 species over 5 days, which is not bad I think considering that I go out by myself and without a guide. I birded in Cerro Punta, El Copé and on Pipeline Road.
Good to know I can add Band-tailed Barbthroat to my list, although I would like to get a better look. You're right, it was taken on the first part of Pipeline.
The last unidentified hummingbird (#5) was seen on the slopes of la India Dormida, which have some dry forest near the bottom (close to the edge of town). It's tough to identify...
Once again, thanks for your help!
Regards,
Cedric
 
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