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Melrose woods, New Mexico (1 Viewer)
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Dusky would be my guess (both bill and primary projection seem to me a better fit for that species than for Hammond's). Round-headedness BTW is said to be a Dusky trait rather than a Hammond's though I can't say that I've ever been able to do much with it.
Definitely not an easy ID, however
Tiraya
San Diego CA
I agree that the PP is better for Dusky. Not sure about the bill, it seemed too short for Dusky but after consulting the books and photos I'm going to take back my argument of the bill being too small for Dusky.
Changing my vote to Dusky.
EDIT: I always associated round-headedness with Hammond's, but I don't think its a reliable feature regardless.
Changing my vote to Dusky.
EDIT: I always associated round-headedness with Hammond's, but I don't think its a reliable feature regardless.
Jeff Hopkins
Just another...observer
Agree with Ash-throated.
The second empid is not a Hammond's. Hammond's has a small two-toned bill. But I'm not familiar enough with the other western empids to hazard a guess otherwise (and it would just be a guess).
The second empid is not a Hammond's. Hammond's has a small two-toned bill. But I'm not familiar enough with the other western empids to hazard a guess otherwise (and it would just be a guess).
The big Sibley (p.328) depicts Hammond's with a "slight crest", Dusky with a "rounded head". Personally I've never noticed the distinction in the field, but then I'm no David Allen Sibley . . ..
Tiraya
San Diego CA
Small but not always two-toned, some have all-dark bills (Dusky has the same variation).
Just because I'm getting a bit confused by this thread, are people discussing the bird in picture 3?
My initial reaction to the bird in picture 2 was that it might be a Bell's Vireo. It doesn't particularly look like an empid to me.
My initial reaction to the bird in picture 2 was that it might be a Bell's Vireo. It doesn't particularly look like an empid to me.
Motmot
Eduardo Amengual
I had exactly the same initial reaction but the complete eyering doesn't look good for Bell's. Any other pics?
No, picture 2, at least in my case.
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