Red-breast UK (1 Viewer)

Valéry Schollaert

Respect animals, don't eat or wear their body or s

• May 24, 2013

• #41

You know, 30 years back, Chiffchaffs/Willow Warblers were considered unidentifiable without call/song, especially if leg colour cannot be judged...

It is thanks to crazy guys that were identifying with certainty what was not identifiable that now it looks easy in most cases...

Debate is making things going on... just an opinion...

Cheers

 

Mark Lew1s

My real name is Mark Lewis

• May 24, 2013

• #42

Valery, there's a massive difference between what your talking about and what I'm talking about. I have no problem with progress - my issue is with guesswork being disguised as fact.

 

Valéry Schollaert

Respect animals, don't eat or wear their body or s

• May 24, 2013

• #43

Valery, there's a massive difference between what your talking about and what I'm talking about. I have no problem with progress - my issue is with guesswork being disguised as fact.

Click to expand...

I understand. I just commented this because in the 80' in France many birdwatchers where accusing me of "diguising guesses as facts", while I just used pp as a reference... for the record, some remember this still today and admitted I was right.

I don't disagree with you on the principle, especially regarding this linnet/whinchat, though guys like Tib78 rarely guess wrongly...

Cheers

 

P

Pete Gt

Well-known member

• May 24, 2013

• #44

to come back to the pic - my first thought was whinchat and I'm sticking with it for now - just in case it helps...