oetzi
Well-known member
Good to know you think I'm a responsible customer! (although I am a "he" actually - we have not adopted gender neutral pronouns in Norway just yet!)
Me neither
People = its ?
Wrong grammar? My english in not that good.
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I broke my SF so you don't have to... (1 Viewer)
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Me neither
People = its ?
Wrong grammar? My english in not that good.
HighNorth
Well-known member
Hi Jan!
Of course, I could have left out my last sentence, but I think it really goes without saying that how a company treats a customer (fairly or unfairly, doesn't matter) has a direct bearing of that customer's attitude towards that company and its products. I suppose Zeiss must know this since they have been very long in the business.
But yeah, let's see how this turns out.
Of course, I could have left out my last sentence, but I think it really goes without saying that how a company treats a customer (fairly or unfairly, doesn't matter) has a direct bearing of that customer's attitude towards that company and its products. I suppose Zeiss must know this since they have been very long in the business.
But yeah, let's see how this turns out.
Good luck with this HighNorth, I'm sure corporate common sense will prevail, or is that something of a paradox....... Joking aside, there was clearly a flaw and there's only really one response Zeiss can make, not least as these are a new product intended for the top end of their market.
Aside from all the discourse on these binoculars in the forum they are a delight to use.
Aside from all the discourse on these binoculars in the forum they are a delight to use.
james holdsworth
Consulting Biologist
I don't care the angle, the temperature, the sun spot activity - a high quality bin should not snap like that, no excuses.
Quality is fitness for use in the eyes of the consumer. Clearly this is not fitness for use as binoculars are field gear and need to be robust.
Quality is fitness for use in the eyes of the consumer. Clearly this is not fitness for use as binoculars are field gear and need to be robust.
Alexis Powell
Natural history enthusiast
FYI, in case you are confused by the mention of gender, "people" is plural in English, so even though we sometimes speak of "a people who...", you should use "their" rather than "its" in your sentence "People like HN, who take responsibility for its own actions, are not necessariliy the norm with customers." Note that gender neutrality is irrelevant to this correction.
In any case, your comment on HighNorth's ethics was flattering, regardless of the fine points of grammar.
--AP
Your impact comparison is not even close.
Nonsense. Things break and no one, not even the owner, knows how much force was applied or the impact area involved.
SUPPRESSOR
Well-known member
Well said.
WHY THINGS BREAK: Understanding the World By the Way It Comes Apart, by Mark Eberhart. 2004.
It's a good read!
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Things-Break-Understanding-World/dp/1400048834
Bob
It's a good read!
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Things-Break-Understanding-World/dp/1400048834
Bob
brocknroller
porromaniac
Me neither
People = its ?
Wrong grammar? My english in not that good.
The only proper use of the pronoun "it" for a person is for my cousin, but you'd have to add another "t":
Cousin Itt
Brockk
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Not true. It (it that is) can be used for a baby of either gender. "Is the baby crying?". "Yes, it is."
NDhunter
Experienced observer
And you don't have any clue, so I am wondering why you would
question the results from Pete Dunne.
I highly doubt Dunne, has performed this torture test on any other
binocular. That is what is important here.
Jerry
Sandy Leng
Well-known member
Thanks for posting this link Bob, should be a good read. Interesting subject.
Just ordered a copy off Amazon UK
Sandy
oetzi
Well-known member
Oh yes, I still am, 35 years after school.
Grammatical gender being very much different in the two languages.
Thanks.
Elmer Fudd
Well-known member
First off, I hope that they will fix it at a reasonable price.
Looks like they used cast metal to build the hinge. But that must not be bad at all. Cast steel is even used to build firearms.
And to the discussion about the logo:
I hope they won't change the Z-logo to the new one used on the binos when making the glass for eyeglasses. I like the "Z" I occassionally see when cleaning my eyeglasses.
jan van daalen
Well-known member
I don't question Pete at all. He's very pleasant and a great conversationalist. However, Pete did not deliberately drop his bin(s) onto a very hard surface ensuring that the impact point was focused on a narrow support structure. Since we really don't know much about either impact we must go with what we do know. Pete's bins, by his own omissions, apparently avoided focused impacts on rigid and unforgiving surfaces. The SF in question apparently fell a few feet onto a very hard surface where the entire force of the impact was focused on a small area. As I said, the two situations appear so different...they're not even close.
Zeiss will reply...you are correct. Only one out of 100,000 will ever break at that location. Welcome to a very exclusive club. Send it in and let's get you a replacement.
