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Old Monday 2nd July 2007, 00:33   #226
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The bird has worked great!
The thing I find about oil painting is that I need a stronger idea (even than when working in watercolour) of how the finished painting will look - even before I start the damn thing. As Nick says, the whole thing can get into a right old mess if you just keep adding colour and paint to the mix.
A smallish watercolour (or pref. acryilic) painting as a guide to the ensuing masterpiece, can have huge benefits. Also - make sure that you have all your necessary reference material to hand when making the painting. Just because oils is a medium which allows re-working, doesn't mean you can afford to be wishy-washy about the whole comp. and colour structure - quite the opposite, in my opinion. I have to blend edges into edges when oil painting - and if my 'other' edge is a piece of moorland, I need to know how it looks before I start blending (If that makes sense!!!).
Er - I've just re-read this and it ONLY just makes sense to me, so please querie if unsure of what I'm on about.
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Old Monday 2nd July 2007, 00:41   #227
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I understand Tim , more prep so I can finish the painting , but it was an enjoyable exercise.
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Old Monday 2nd July 2007, 08:46   #228
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My second ever fin. picture in Oils.
I kept it simple and I need alot, lot more practice.
Sorry Woody couldn't resist a Waggy.
Who can resist a waggy?!

I reckon that's a great effort with oils. I've tried, and tried again, and only this weekend I tried again! Mine was a portrait of my daughter but it ended up as a blue/grey canvas tinted to paint something on later. The biggest problem I find is the drying time, I want to paint, not wait for paint to dry!
So well done Arthur, I'm sure if you keep at it you'll crack it and I'm pretty sure I won't!

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Old Monday 2nd July 2007, 10:53   #229
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Thanks Woody,the drying time or even waiting for it to go tacky so the next layer will stick. You need far to much room to. wet paint everywhere.prob. try again later on. Need to get out on the marshes and do some sketching.
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Old Monday 2nd July 2007, 17:12   #230
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Gents - I think that's what I was trying to say - that I find I need to know more or less exactly what colour's going where (when oil painting). A bit like painting by numbers, if you get my drift? Too much on-canvas blending can really spoil the effect.
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Old Monday 2nd July 2007, 20:07   #231
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This thread is amazing. The art work is out of this world, well done I have enjoyed looking at every one. Look forward to seeing more.
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Old Tuesday 3rd July 2007, 18:11   #232
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Welcome , I'me pleased you like the thread. Get sketching and let us all see the results. It's brilliant for bird I.D. because you really have to closely look at the bird, so don't be afraid to have a go.there are plenty of people in the forum to help you.
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Old Tuesday 3rd July 2007, 18:47   #233
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I agree with Arthur, more sketching and sketchers!
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Old Wednesday 4th July 2007, 19:17   #234
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One more go at the Waggy. I had to try and do it justice.
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Old Wednesday 4th July 2007, 19:25   #235
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Your confidence in this medium is striking, it's always good to play with new media (all part of the process), but this picture looks more complete than the last one, nice stuff.
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Superb Arthur, I like the detail you get.
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Old Thursday 5th July 2007, 11:48   #237
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Old Thursday 5th July 2007, 12:22   #238
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Beautifully drawn bird Arthur, you're getting some realism there.
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Old Thursday 5th July 2007, 12:23   #239
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Arthur - you're obviously mastering the pencils (very difficult) and this is lovely - but please don't give up on the oils. I can see something very nice in the other version, quite substantial but subtle too. Keep at them.
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Thankyou both,
Alan goodluck with the exhibition you have going.
Tim I won't give up on oils , it won't beat me prob. have a lot of muddy ones till I get it right.
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These are on the joint thread
Juv. Maggy + Juv. Goldfinch
Nosey Female Reed-Bunting
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Old Saturday 7th July 2007, 20:25   #242
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lots of action in the maggy, I love the goldfinch blob with its back to us, justhow they are half the time. Top right reed bunting's the one for me. great stuff.
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Your fieldwork continues to astound me, Arthur. The very bottom bunt. portrait is as good as I've ever seen - excellent (the whole lot).
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Been quiet ,worn out by grandson this week. Could not resist this though.Superb male Sparrow Hawk took a juv. Blackbird in the garden just as I was going indoors.
Grabbed book and pencil .Unfortunately it was a 4H way to hard for me but no time to or couldn't risk going to change it. Made the best of it.
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Old Friday 13th July 2007, 20:13   #245
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you certainly did make the best of it, very exciting sketches of an exciting subject
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Bravo Arthur, you make more meaningful and expressive drawings in your backgarden than a man ought to be allowed to - wonderful work.
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These are smashing sketches. We had one in our garden a while ago on the rockery about a yard from the back door - inbelievable. Didn't attempt to sketch it as I expected it to fly away any second but it was so intent on its meal - a sparrow I think that it stayed for ages in the end - managed to get some photo thr' the glass.
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Pleased you all like.
Mr & mrs are to busy feeding the young at this time of year to hang about Wendy.
One drawn up in colour may do others , not sure which to paint might do coloured sketches of all to get an idea.
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Wonderful stuff Arthur, you're really making the most of your retirement.

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Wonderful stuff Arthur, you're really making the most of your retirement.

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Thanks Phill I really am enjoying every minute , not enough off them in the day now.
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